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does anyone know when the new fixtures are out or when the leagues get reorganised??

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Committee said they were to sit down and decide it next week (clubs had to have their applications in by last night).

Few new teams looking to come in (Accrington, Shaw, Askam, possibly Little Hulton and maybe Ellesmere Port), some new second teams (Rochdale Cobras) and a few clubs wanting to move a couple of divisions. So don't hold your breath about it being sorted out very soon...

...they can't put Askam in the bottom division can they?

anyone know why Milnrow haven't applied? heard on the grapevine they would want to come back this year...

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Why can't Askam start in the bottom division? Everyone else had to - well, Woolston had to! icon_confused.gif

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When we (Hindpool) went in NWC for the first time we were put in division 6 and after the first 9 games we had only had 1 home match due to teams not travelling so we decided to pull out and the same would happen to Askam due to the amount of 2nd teams in that league. FWIW I dot think you should have had to start from the bottom either.

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Quote: Milly "Why can't Askam start in the bottom division? Everyone else had to - well, Woolston had to!
maybe Woolston shouldnt have had to either?

Having had Hindley come back in Div 6 / 5 and score 100 points on some teams it's damaging to the development of new clubs to throw such clubs into the bottom - and probably doesnt help them either! Even worse a Cumbrian team - travelling to Cumbria is an expense for any club but probably more of an issue for a new club which will have less established revenue streams and little by way of financial reserves. Can imagine clubs not wanting to go, and definately not wanting to go if its likley they will get a beating from a team that is actually well established having just missed out on winning the Barrow and District League...

I'm assuming the Barrow League is of a better standard than the bottom end of NWC???

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The Barrow & District league varies in standard because it is usually A teams that play in it, so it depends on which first teams have no game or games called off. Askam are a good club with good facilities. I hear that some players that left them when they dropped out of the conference will be going back to them so they should have a decent side. If thats true, they will be comfortable in division 3, but that would make 4 teams from Cumbria in that division and that could cause problems with clubs travelling.

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its a tough balancing act for teh league - to balance the quality of sides against development and rules.

Div 3 is a particular issue. Has Heysham in it also.

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Hindpool, Dalton, Ulverston & Heysham we travelled to last season.

Askam surely cannot be put with these 4, it would be madness. I think (with all due respect), Hindpool may drop down due to there league position, and Dalton should go up, again due to there league position, that would be a goos seperator, however...I am glad I am not putting the bottom leagues together this season! icon_ask.gif

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will be a while before its sorted - there are an army of clubs who hadnt put their forms in as of Tuesday after the meeting...

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Quote: mmp "will be a while before its sorted - there are an army of clubs who hadnt put their forms in as of Tuesday after the meeting...'"

Hadn't you better get to London and tell Cameron to sack half your staff? icon_smile.gif

Travelling First Class mate?? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Cronus "Hadn't you better get to London and tell Cameron to sack half your staff?
I'm going tomorrow now but am staying until Monday evening, then back there on Wednesday after coming back oop north for Tuesday night training - how about that for commitment! Tonight i'll show my face at training, then need to get home and pack everything.

And yes, travelling back first class. paying the £10 upgrade myself and taking a bottle of red on the train with me....

(and it's more than 1/2 that are to go!)

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Quote: mmp "maybe Woolston shouldnt have had to either?

Having had Hindley come back in Div 6 / 5 and score 100 points on some teams it's damaging to the development of new clubs to throw such clubs into the bottom - and probably doesnt help them either! Even worse a Cumbrian team - travelling to Cumbria is an expense for any club but probably more of an issue for a new club which will have less established revenue streams and little by way of financial reserves. Can imagine clubs not wanting to go, and definately not wanting to go if its likley they will get a beating from a team that is actually well established having just missed out on winning the Barrow and District League...

I'm assuming the Barrow League is of a better standard than the bottom end of NWC???'"

Somewhere down the line the NWC must look to the RFL to fund travel to cumbria. If it's classed as development of the game why not.

On another item

The comment on Hindley was interesting, they completed the 2006-7 season in Div1 but decided not to enter in 2007-8 through lack of players. When they re-applied in 2008-9 they went to the bottom division 6.

Orrell St James were in either the prem or div1 in 2007-8, played a few games then informed the league they could only play friendlies due to lack of players. Dropping out of the league early in the season, basically doing the same as Hindley, however they restarted in div 3 for 2008-9 season.

If Hindley had followed that route would they be in the lower divisions??

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Didn't Hindley request to start in the bottom division to work their way up?

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