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The title says it all. Any team that cannot put two wins together is favourite for the drop...that is us!!!
Didn,t go to Wigan, glad I didn,t, so cannot comment on individual performances, however we are now in serious trouble and relying on others to slip up and there is no guarantee of that. Our awful points diff means we are realistically three points behind Leeds and Huddersfield with games running out.
The simple fact is we have simply GOT to win most of our remaining games to stand a decent chance of survival.
Maybe sounds negative, but that is the fact of it. Hate to say it but I am losing faith in this team to do it.
Miserable old git that I am...maybe I,m wrong, but don,t think I am. icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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I’d say if we win 5 or 6 we will be safe if we beat London Leeds Huddersfield Wakefeild and Castleford or Catalan and then we have Salford away which is a winnable game ...

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I may be in a minority here but I sort of hope we go down, now hear me out, my favourite year of watching rovers in the past 8 seasons was the 2017 champ year, yes some blow out victories but some competitive games, I don’t believe we are good enough and have not been for years now, if we stay up it will be more of the same next year, nailed on bottom 2 ,just fed up win 1 lose 5 sequence , feel for the club though as it has certainly tried hard on and off the field.We was probably the biggest losers of the trialled franchising experiment by investing in a multi million pound stand that we now have a mortgage on ,and youth development to earn a better license grade at the expense of better recruitment, I do apologise to the optimist support of which I believe we have too many of, we seem to accept failure too easy as a support base, just look at the attendance we achieve, I mean honestly do rovers fans travelling to saints,wire,Wigan expect a win, the history books will tell you we have something like 1 win in 10 years at all 3 clubs combined lol, anyway rant over and hopefully see some of you at a winning fixture next year.

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I understand the viewpoint re. winning games in the lower league, but SL is where we must be. If we survive, and with two or three good signings in the right place and who actually perform as required we become competative and move away from the bottom four.
Seems like another excuse but we have had some stinking luck with key players missing for the majority of the last few seasons and have had too small a squad to cope. Lessons must be learnt.
This club can be top four and is big enough to do so,but needs the right signings at the right time and learn to have a killer instinct.
If we stay up and TS stays it,s a new start and we go again, but as supporters we need some belief in our team. It,s time it happened.
We had it before, we can have it again.

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Salford loss and Catalan loss could of should of won same with the Wigan at home loss if we had of won them 3 games we would be on 20 points and challenging .... so we are not that far off few more signings we will be up there and definitely don’t think Drinkwater is the answer for half back so probably be two new half’s for next season if we stay up add a few forwards and Quinlan fit we will be right I honestly think if we had Quinlan playing from start of season we would on won a lot more games he is probably ower best attacking option

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Quote: Old Timer No 4 "I understand the viewpoint re. winning games in the lower league, but SL is where we must be. If we survive, and with two or three good signings in the right place and who actually perform as required we become competative and move away from the bottom four.
Seems like another excuse but we have had some stinking luck with key players missing for the majority of the last few seasons and have had too small a squad to cope. Lessons must be learnt.
This club can be top four and is big enough to do so,but needs the right signings at the right time and learn to have a killer instinct.
If we stay up and TS stays it,s a new start and we go again, but as supporters we need some belief in our team. It,s time it happened.
We had it before, we can have it again.'"

Cheer up we are not bottom now thanks to Warrington and next week London are at hull FC

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Quote: Davetherobin "Salford loss and Catalan loss could of should of won same with the Wigan at home loss if we had of won them 3 games we would be on 20 points and challenging .... so we are not that far off few more signings we will be up there and definitely don’t think Drinkwater is the answer for half back so probably be two new half’s for next season if we stay up add a few forwards and Quinlan fit we will be right I honestly think if we had Quinlan playing from start of season we would on won a lot more games he is probably ower best attacking option'"



Trouble for me is every year it’s injury excuse for staying up or going down on the last game of the season, I think it’s deeper as a coach generally will not be sacked for that

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You know your bad when you drop a place in the league when you play but then climb the table when you don’t lol.

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Quote: Spegsdrinkingbuddy "I may be in a minority here but I sort of hope we go down, now hear me out, my favourite year of watching rovers in the past 8 seasons was the 2017 champ year, yes some blow out victories but some competitive games, I don’t believe we are good enough and have not been for years now, if we stay up it will be more of the same next year, nailed on bottom 2 ,just fed up win 1 lose 5 sequence , feel for the club though as it has certainly tried hard on and off the field.We was probably the biggest losers of the trialled franchising experiment by investing in a multi million pound stand that we now have a mortgage on ,and youth development to earn a better license grade at the expense of better recruitment, I do apologise to the optimist support of which I believe we have too many of, we seem to accept failure too easy as a support base, just look at the attendance we achieve, I mean honestly do rovers fans travelling to saints,wire,Wigan expect a win, the history books will tell you we have something like 1 win in 10 years at all 3 clubs combined lol, anyway rant over and hopefully see some of you at a winning fixture next year.'"


I very much hope we stay up, but I know where you are coming from. I wasn’t far off in Sheens last days (and generally I was an admirer of his).

However, there does seem to be a concerted effort get us out of the rut. Tony Smith, John Bastian, buying the ground and so on. I’m concerned that we seem to be in for a lot of small-ish players again for 2020, and i’d like to think that if we survive, Smith would see the need for more power and influence our recruitment and S&C accordingly.

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Quote: Davetherobin "I’d say if we win 5 or 6 we will be safe if we beat London Leeds Huddersfield Wakefeild and Castleford or Catalan and then we have Salford away which is a winnable game ...'"


With only 8 left to play, you’d really hope 5 or 6 would be enough. icon_smile.gif

It’d be nice to put in a strong to the end of the season.

The next couple of fixtures will decide whether it is a 2-way, 3-way or 4-way struggle, I reckon.

We can drag Leeds and/or Hudds back into the mix and help ourselves - or it’ll be all about us and London.

Even if Salford and Wakefield both go into/remain in freefall, I can’t see both us and London winning three more than either, with only 8 to go. Mind you, Wakefield’s run in is tough and they have to visit Craven Park still.

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if I was a betting man it would be London, thought hudds might be dark horses but after thurs maybe not,

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Quote: hull2524 "if I was a betting man it would be London, thought hudds might be dark horses but after thurs maybe not,'"

Hope your right mate,disappointing friday for us both,its always tough after a derby win or lose and friday speaks volumes. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Mild Rover "I very much hope we stay up, but I know where you are coming from. I wasn’t far off in Sheens last days (and generally I was an admirer of his).

However, there does seem to be a concerted effort get us out of the rut. Tony Smith, John Bastian, buying the ground and so on. I’m concerned that we seem to be in for a lot of small-ish players again for 2020, and i’d like to think that if we survive, Smith would see the need for more power and influence our recruitment and S&C accordingly.'"


When you say smallish, would you like a team of 6ft 4 18 stone players? Our best players are Quinlan, Hall, Hauraki, Crooks, all are small in regards. Look at Catalans who have a team filled with size and weight, but can be awful at times.

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Quote: robinrovers10 " When you say smallish, would you like a team of 6ft 4 18 stone players? '"


I would love that, so much. Lads who look like those statues on Easter Island and are similarly mobile.


Quote: robinrovers10 "Our best players are Quinlan, Hall, Hauraki, Crooks, all are small in regards. Look at Catalans who have a team filled with size and weight, but can be awful at times.'"


At times. Most teams are awful at times, but mostly not quite as often as Hull KR have been in recent SL seasons. Catalans won the cup last year and currently sit in a play-off spot - if that is the price we have to pay, then so be it.

I’m not saying we can’t have [iany[/i smaller, skilful players, but surely you must be tired of us getting gubbed about the park most weeks for the last 5 years. If it worked and we had quicksilver boys with flaxen curls, skipping with exuberant grace just beyond the grasp of their clumsy leaden-footed opposite numbers, then I would very quickly stfu. But it hasn’t been a recipe for success.

Also, Quinlan is definitely one of our best. The other three have their plus points, and I like them. But i’m not sure they are among our top 5 (you’ll be unsurprised to hear I rate Masoe and Garbutt more highly), and I think they probably wouldn’t be in the first choice team for at least half the clubs in SL. Which is part of why we’ve won joint fewest games in SL this year.

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Quote: Mild Rover "I would love that, so much. Lads who look like those statues on Easter Island and are similarly mobile.


At times. Most teams are awful at times, but mostly not quite as often as Hull KR have been in recent SL seasons. Catalans won the cup last year and currently sit in a play-off spot - if that is the price we have to pay, then so be it.

I’m not saying we can’t have [iany[/i smaller, skilful players, but surely you must be tired of us getting gubbed about the park most weeks for the last 5 years. If it worked and we had quicksilver boys with flaxen curls, skipping with exuberant grace just beyond the grasp of their clumsy leaden-footed opposite numbers, then I would very quickly stfu. But it hasn’t been a recipe for success.

Also, Quinlan is definitely one of our best. The other three have their plus points, and I like them. But i’m not sure they are among our top 5 (you’ll be unsurprised to hear I rate Masoe and Garbutt more highly), and I think they probably wouldn’t be in the first choice team for at least half the clubs in SL. Which is part of why we’ve won joint fewest games in SL this year.'"

The reason why we have not won anouth games upto now this year is the pack apart from 2 and the 2 are garbutt and Masoe get 2 more like them and keep them fit and we would be higher in the league

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