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That's how you play Number 6! Too good for a reserves side; would have liked to see him play more of a role for us in the league in this position rather than a back up for Shaun Lunt.
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That's how you play Number 6! Too good for a reserves side; would have liked to see him play more of a role for us in the league in this position rather than a back up for Shaun Lunt.


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Like others have said the intensity of that game is questionable, not sure sheens issue with Clark he's a big aggressive forward don't understand why he's not in his plans....

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Quote: Salty mouse "Like others have said the intensity of that game is questionable, not sure sheens issue with Clark he's a big aggressive forward don't understand why he's not in his plans....'"


Clark is only 21, and like Mulhern and Johnson have been left out for experience, which I think when the going gets tough, we need, the 3 names above are very prone to mistakes, and slipping off the odd tackle so Sheens is going for safety in the likes of Scruton, Jewitt, Kavagnah, Masoe, Clarkson etc.

As for Dockar-Clay I think he should of have far more game time earlier on. He is a game changer and we don't have many of them.

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Quote: robinrovers10 "Clark is only 21, and like Mulhern and Johnson have been left out for experience, which I think when the going gets tough, we need, the 3 names above are very prone to mistakes, and slipping off the odd tackle so Sheens is going for safety in the likes of Scruton, Jewitt, Kavagnah, Masoe, Clarkson etc.

As for Dockar-Clay I think he should of have far more game time earlier on. He is a game changer and we don't have many of them.'"


Didn't realise Clark is so young icon_eek.gif agreed experience is crucial never more so then at this moment in time. I can see lawler starting at 9 as it proved so successful last week so where does that leave ZDC....

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Zach docker clay,is a far better half back than matty marsh will ever be,imo he should be partnering ellis in the halves,atkins could be a work in progress,but how marsh managed to be so ineffective for 70 mins against leigh is an achievement in itself.I think zdc could be the difference between the championship and super league.

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Quote: des lawson "Zach docker clay,is a far better half back than matty marsh will ever be,imo he should be partnering ellis in the halves,atkins could be a work in progress,but how marsh managed to be so ineffective for 70 mins against leigh is an achievement in itself.I think zdc could be the difference between the championship and super league.'"


Agreed! I would prefer bobby at 6 over marsh least he's steady. Don't think Atkins will get a start tbf can't see Tim tinkering....

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Quote: Salty mouse "Didn't realise Clark is so young He's not.

He turned 24 in March.

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Quote: Salty mouse "Agreed! I would prefer bobby at 6 over marsh least he's steady. Don't think Atkins will get a start tbf can't see Tim tinkering....'"

I agree about bobby and I wish we had got Atkins earlier he would have been up to speed by now But we have to go with what we have

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Quote: SirStan "He's not.

He turned 24 in March.'"


I did think as quoted 21 was too young....

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Quote: des lawson "Zach docker clay,is a far better half back than matty marsh will ever be,imo he should be partnering ellis in the halves,atkins could be a work in progress,but how marsh managed to be so ineffective for 70 mins against leigh is an achievement in itself.I think zdc could be the difference between the championship and super league.'"


Is that based on one outing for Saints reserves or just the selection of the next scapegoat. I've seen ZDC at HB once this year in the 1st team and he was awful. Marsh might have been a bit anonymous but in some ways that's better than being noticed for the wrong reasons. ZDC is a hooker, not a half back.

Atkin I thought looked sharp, engaged the line and asked questions when he came on. Blair is far better in the SR or even in the centre position he played last week, it strengthens our defence on that side and with Carney there we need it.

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Quote: barham red "Is that based on one outing for Saints reserves or just the selection of the next scapegoat. I've seen ZDC at HB once this year in the 1st team and he was awful. Marsh might have been a bit anonymous but in some ways that's better than being noticed for the wrong reasons. ZDC is a hooker, not a half back.

Atkin I thought looked sharp, engaged the line and asked questions when he came on. Blair is far better in the SR or even in the centre position he played last week, it strengthens our defence on that side and with Carney there we need it.'"


I guess thats what every team wants then an annonymous halfback,not one who creates something? You must be right because look round other teams,gale and roberts,maguire and moon,dobbo and lui,kelly and sneyd,fages and matty smith,not much creativity there,so as usual your right its better to have an annonymous half back.

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Quote: des lawson "I guess thats what every team wants then an annonymous halfback,not one who creates something? You must be right because look round other teams,gale and roberts,maguire and moon,dobbo and lui,kelly and sneyd,fages and matty smith,not much creativity there,so as usual your right its better to have an annonymous half back.'"


I'd take any of those in the halves but we don't have them but what relevance they have i dont know. We've got clay, a hooker, who was terrible at HB in his one outing there and had a decent game at reserve level. So unless we've suddenly signed Gale to partner Ellis I'll stick with Sheens picks.

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Quote: barham red "I'd take any of those in the halves but we don't have them but what relevance they have i dont know. We've got clay, a hooker, who was terrible at HB in his one outing there and had a decent game at reserve level. So unless we've suddenly signed Gale to partner Ellis I'll stick with Sheens picks.'"


We have no choice to stick with his picks,imo mitch clark would be in my squad instead of starring for saints reserves,but there you go.

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Would rather start with Atkin and have ZDC on bench,Marsh to miss out.interesting results in super 8s tonight and will be important tomorrow in our 8s particularly Cats v Leigh.

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Quote: barham red "Is that based on one outing for Saints reserves or just the selection of the next scapegoat. I've seen ZDC at HB once this year in the 1st team and he was awful. Marsh might have been a bit anonymous but in some ways that's better than being noticed for the wrong reasons. ZDC is a hooker, not a half back.

Atkin I thought looked sharp, engaged the line and asked questions when he came on. Blair is far better in the SR or even in the centre position he played last week, it strengthens our defence on that side and with Carney there we need it.'"



Mr Sheens does not agree..."Zach played very well in the halves and we’re looking at him more as a half-back now."

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