FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Hull KR > 100k and Burns..................
124 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover
RankPostsTeam
International Star554No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2013Dec 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68034_1342776248.png
[b:o4ot7fyi]Champions keep playing until they get it right.[/b:o4ot7fyi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68034.png



Good deal?

Looks like a good bit of work by our BOD.

rlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Hull-KR-sign-Travis-Burns-Penrith-Panthers-end/story-16738919-detail/story.htmlrl

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12633
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
33809_1522680904.png
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

Moderator


Looks a decent deal on paper. £100k is not to be sniffed at. Burns apparently exists somewhere in the middle of the Scott Murrell-Greg Bird spectrum, according to our correspondents in Australia. I tend towards optimism - it's free, after all.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1326No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2017Jun 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
62076_1319959059.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62076.png



Whether its good or bad the deal is done and life goes on.

However, its the implications of the deal which concern me. A top 4 club come knocking on the door for one of our prized assets, and what does the club do? They don't put up a NO sign (as they did when Leeds came knocking for Welham). What type of signal does that send out? To me it is either one of 2; Rovers need the money or Rovers are a selling club. Both of these are uncomfortable IMO.

Don't forget, it was seen as a major coup to tie both Blake and Dobbo to long term contracts. They were heralded as the dream partnership. Less than a year later and that dream is in bits without a fight to save it.

Don't also overlook the apparent stampede for Scott Taylor (FC, Warry & Leeds) - in some quarters there's a belief the time is ripe to sell rather than let him see out his contract - and even Dobbo is said to be available subject to offers (albeit rumour).

Its all well and good for NH to lay the blame with agents (unsettling players) but the club can pull the rug, yet they haven't. . .

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23521.jpg
[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



If they're both on the same wage and they're both going to play 6 hkr are (very) slightly down (if it's Green from 2011) , throw in 100k and Greens current injury problems and you've got a deal and a half.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23521.jpg
[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: Paul T - HKR "Whether its good or bad the deal is done and life goes on.

However, its the implications of the deal which concern me. A top 4 club come knocking on the door for one of our prized assets, and what does the club do? They don't put up a NO sign (as they did when Leeds came knocking for Welham). What type of signal does that send out? To me it is either one of 2; Rovers need the money or Rovers are a selling club. Both of these are uncomfortable IMO.

Don't forget, it was seen as a major coup to tie both Blake and Dobbo to long term contracts. They were heralded as the dream partnership. Less than a year later and that dream is in bits without a fight to save it.

Don't also overlook the apparent stampede for Scott Taylor (FC, Warry & Leeds) - in some quarters there's a belief the time is ripe to sell rather than let him see out his contract - and even Dobbo is said to be available subject to offers (albeit rumour).

Its all well and good for NH to lay the blame with agents (unsettling players) but the club can pull the rug, yet they haven't. . .'"


Or they believe Burns is a better player than Green?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11924
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30596_1286642206.jpg
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



Depends what the player themselves wants to do. Did Welham want to go to Leeds or did he see his progress better matched at Rovers at the moment?

If Wigan come knocking and Greem wants to and has a release clause that can be triggered next year then get the 100K is the right decision for me.

Doesn't necessarily mean we're a selling club, but what we certainly aren't is a buying club and at the moment Wigan, Hull and Warrington are.

If Sandercock wasn't happy with Burns as a replacement or indeed if he wasn't available then perhaps we would have said no.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1326No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2017Jun 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
62076_1319959059.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62076.png



Quote: Sheldon "Or they believe Burns is a better player than Green?'"



Perhaps, although I don't buy into that line of argument. There's more to it than that.

RankPostsTeam
International Star554No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2013Dec 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68034_1342776248.png
[b:o4ot7fyi]Champions keep playing until they get it right.[/b:o4ot7fyi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68034.png



From what I have seen of Burns this looks like a good deal to me, the kid is tough as old boots and has the skill of a good SL half back.

Time will tell of course, but I feel we have done okay on this one.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23521.jpg
[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: Paul T - HKR "Perhaps, although I don't buy into that line of argument. There's more to it than that.'"


Why? Why does their always have to be a conspiracy?

I read on hear, so I'm happy to be corrected, that NH is spending full cap this season but planning on spending 1.2m next season.

Have you seen your ins and outs?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8741
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2023May 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Sheldon "Why? Why does their always have to be a conspiracy?

I read on hear, so I'm happy to be corrected, that NH is spending full cap this season but planning on spending 1.2m next season.
Have you seen your ins and outs?'"


I don't think he actually said that, only that, in effect, we only had 1.2M worth this year based on long term injuries to 4 of the top 5 earners at the club. When moving onto next season, he intimated we wouldn't operate at full cap, but didn't mention a figure.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11924
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30596_1286642206.jpg
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



Hall at six, Burns at loose, Lovegrove to go back to being a full time prop for Fatty Fatty Moob Man, job done.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12633
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
33809_1522680904.png
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

Moderator


Quote: Paul T - HKR "Whether its good or bad the deal is done and life goes on.

However, its the implications of the deal which concern me. A top 4 club come knocking on the door for one of our prized assets, and what does the club do? They don't put up a NO sign (as they did when Leeds came knocking for Welham). What type of signal does that send out? To me it is either one of 2; Rovers need the money or Rovers are a selling club. Both of these are uncomfortable IMO.

Don't forget, it was seen as a major coup to tie both Blake and Dobbo to long term contracts. They were heralded as the dream partnership. Less than a year later and that dream is in bits without a fight to save it.

Don't also overlook the apparent stampede for Scott Taylor (FC, Warry & Leeds) - in some quarters there's a belief the time is ripe to sell rather than let him see out his contract - and even Dobbo is said to be available subject to offers (albeit rumour).

Its all well and good for NH to lay the blame with agents (unsettling players) but the club can pull the rug, yet they haven't. . .'"


We've come a long way, but we aren't as inherently strong as Leeds or Wigan and although our backers have been great for the club, their pockets aren't as deep as a McManus or a Moran. The reality of our situation may be uncomfortable, but it's a lot better than it used to be (so I'm told icon_wink.gif ) and when you look at certain other SL clubs at the moment, I'm happy to count our blessings.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7348
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45295_1698513085.jpg
once a black and white always a black and white COYH:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45295.jpg



i think its common knowledge rovers are skint,as are a lot of other teams,hence selling their crown jewels, burns could turn out to be a good signing time will tell but he comes with a lot of baggage,

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23521.jpg
[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: SirStan "I don't think he actually said that, only that, in effect, we only had 1.2M worth this year based on long term injuries to 4 of the top 5 earners at the club. When moving onto next season, he intimated we wouldn't operate at full cap, but didn't mention a figure.'"


Cheers Stan, I knew I shouldn't believe ever thing I read on here.

Even so Hkr's recruitment has been good, Gleeson, Burns, Tuimavave, Paterson in for Webster, Green, Clinton and Galea gives you players on the field instead of on the treatment table.

If your replacing McDonnell, Murrell and Watts with Sherriff, Petersen and Green then it's a slight dip in quality to begin with but the savings secure your future.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1326No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2017Jun 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
62076_1319959059.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62076.png



Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "Depends what the player themselves wants to do. Did Welham want to go to Leeds or did he see his progress better matched at Rovers at the moment?

If Wigan come knocking and Greem wants to and has a release clause that can be triggered next year then get the 100K is the right decision for me.

Doesn't necessarily mean we're a selling club, but what we certainly aren't is a buying club and at the moment Wigan, Hull and Warrington are.

If Sandercock wasn't happy with Burns as a replacement or indeed if he wasn't available then perhaps we would have said no.'"



I agree, there are many factors at play and yes the players do have a say, and perhaps Rovers have tried to persuade Blake to stay, but we won't know until the club make an official announcement. Mind you, I fully expect a statement which follows the lines of unsettled player blah blah!

124 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover
124 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, R.B.A , Anakin Skywalker , Mild Rover



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.43115234375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40093
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62454
7m
TV Games - Not Hull
Irregular Ho
2739
8m
Film game
Boss Hog
3736
13m
Accounts
faxcar
111
15m
Salford H Moved to Thursday
MattyB
96
17m
Remember in 2017
Scarlet Pimp
5
23m
Squad for London
Winslade's O
31
31m
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Maccbull_Big
18
41m
bulls on Sunday
Tony Fax
18
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
30s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
HU8HFC
3132
35s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62454
36s
Recruitment rumours and links
Fourpointtry
3072
37s
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
Bobby Digita
14
40s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28752
49s
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trophy By Thrashing Salford
RLFANS News
1
55s
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
101
59s
Academy Players Promoted to First Team Squad
Simba16
2
1m
Barrow
FOREVERTRIN
6
1m
Huddersfiels to get new stadium
RobRiches
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trophy By Thrashing Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Barrow
FOREVERTRIN
6
TODAY
Holly Spurr Interview
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Wolves again
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Academy Players Promoted to First Team Squad
Simba16
2
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Round 27 HKR Away
ArthurClues
10
TODAY
Squad for London
Winslade's O
31
TODAY
Hull FC preview
Hessle Roade
2
TODAY
Halifax A
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
East stand
PopTart
12
TODAY
Locations of League
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Matt Parcell to leave at seasons end
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Huddersfiels to get new stadium
RobRiches
2
TODAY
IMG
rubber ducki
5
TODAY
Leaving players
Murphy
1
TODAY
bulls on Sunday
Tony Fax
18
TODAY
Concerts at Stadiums
Fantastic Mr
11
TODAY
Finn out Murrell in
faxcar
11
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
MattyB
3
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Maccbull_Big
18
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
36
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Marcus's Bic
50
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
the cal trai
31
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
ducknumber1
33
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
184
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
837
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
606
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
635
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
760
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1072
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1004
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1120
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1091
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1120
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1497
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1451
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1583
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1509
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1697