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On our website we claim to have won the Eastern Division (as the Yorkshire League was briefly known) in 1962-1963. In the Centenary History it says the same, iirc. Again iirc, it was kind of a big deal because we'd won nowt since 1930. On the Wiki pages for both that competition and Wakefield Trinity in says they won it that season.
We won the Yorkshire League in '67, Wiki says, but that isn't on our website - possible confusion because we won the Yorkshire Cup that year too?

Anybody remember who won what when???????

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I'm pretty sure we didn't win the actual Yorkshire League that year.

Looking at wiki, it say's it's an 'Eastern Division', and makes it sound as if that was the first year it was split, but, the Yorkshire League Championship runs all the way back to 1895.

Maybe it was a separate trophy played by just a few of the Yorkshire clubs?

Strange one.

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As per a programme bought at the Rovers v Leeds Slalom Lager RL Championship match 30 September 1981, Rovers won the Eastern Division Championship on the one occassion in 1962/63 season.

Rovers were Yorkshire League Champions in 1924/25, 1925/26 & runners up in 1911/12, 1912/13, 1966/67 and 1967/68.

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It says we won the '66-'67 Yorkshire League here...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966%E2%80 ... gue_season

and here...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_leag ... ty_leagues

but Wakefield are 'confirmed' as Yorkshire League winners for '62-'63 here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1962%E2%80 ... gue_season

With Cas, Wakefield, Leeds and Hudds all above us.

So what was the Eastern Division?

Aha - I've found out...

www.giantssupporters.co.uk/Herit ... ition.html

It was basically a way of making up fixtures, with the split to 2 divisions - NOT a rebranding of the Yorkshire League (bad Wikipedia).

So anyway - I assume we did win the Yorkshire League in 1966-67 and this should be added to our list of honours. Leeds finished above us in the table but we presumably had a better record against Yorkshire clubs (?).
It says we won the '66-'67 Yorkshire League here...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966%E2%80 ... gue_season

and here...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_leag ... ty_leagues

but Wakefield are 'confirmed' as Yorkshire League winners for '62-'63 here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1962%E2%80 ... gue_season

With Cas, Wakefield, Leeds and Hudds all above us.

So what was the Eastern Division?

Aha - I've found out...

www.giantssupporters.co.uk/Herit ... ition.html

It was basically a way of making up fixtures, with the split to 2 divisions - NOT a rebranding of the Yorkshire League (bad Wikipedia).

So anyway - I assume we did win the Yorkshire League in 1966-67 and this should be added to our list of honours. Leeds finished above us in the table but we presumably had a better record against Yorkshire clubs (?).


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wasnt the Yorkshire league the reseves league ?

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Quote: Cridling stubb xii member "wasnt the Yorkshire league the reseves league ?'"


It was a sub-competition league table compiled based on results only for your games against teams from the same side of the Pennines. It ran from 1895, with a a few brief lapses, until 1970. It's on Wikipedia.

I've got a programme from '84 that only lists us as having won it in '25 and '26. Programmes from 2008-2011 add the 1967 title (though the 1968 Yorkshire Cup win is forgotten). Then this year we've reverted to listing just '25 and '26.

Any older posters remember whether winning this still had any kudos by the '60s or was it binned in '70 because it didn't?

Frankly, I don't - if it was officially recognised and if we won it, it should be counted.

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Quote: Cridling stubb xii member "wasnt the Yorkshire league the reseves league ?'"

probably, think somewhere on rovers honours board it also states plate winners.... a comp you had to lose in to win it, you couldnt make it up

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Quote: berro's best mate "probably, think somewhere on rovers honours board it also states plate winners.... a comp you had to lose in to win it, you couldnt make it up'"


A winning trip to play at Wembley deserves a mention in our honours list surely?

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Quote: berro's best mate "probably, think somewhere on rovers honours board it also states plate winners.... a comp you had to lose in to win it, you couldnt make it up'"


Given that Hull list their lost finals and runners-up spots, the 'credit for losing argument' comes across as a bit weak...

www.hullfc.com/page/1001/club-re ... nd-honours

Thanks for the bump though.
Quote: berro's best mate "probably, think somewhere on rovers honours board it also states plate winners.... a comp you had to lose in to win it, you couldnt make it up'"


Given that Hull list their lost finals and runners-up spots, the 'credit for losing argument' comes across as a bit weak...

www.hullfc.com/page/1001/club-re ... nd-honours

Thanks for the bump though.


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Hi, not posted before but I've been waiting for someone to ask about the Eastern Division match for the last 40 odd years. I was actually at the final, taken by my dad when I was 12. Final was against Huddersfield and Rovers won 13-10 I think at Headingly, believe Graham Paul. The match was a week or 2 after the Yorkshire cup final which Rovers lost to Hunslet 12-2. Rovers suffered some real bad injuries in the Yorkshire cup final, Harry Poole broken leg, first game back after another broken leg and Mike Blackmore broken collar bone so nobody gave them a chance against Huddersfield but they won. There's an interview with Colin Hutton on Rovers TV in which he discusses the game. Think only he and I remember it.

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Quote: Chants Ave Red "Hi, not posted before but I've been waiting for someone to ask about the Eastern Division match for the last 40 odd years. I was actually at the final, taken by my dad when I was 12. Final was against Huddersfield and Rovers won 13-10 I think at Headingly, believe Graham Paul. The match was a week or 2 after the Yorkshire cup final which Rovers lost to Hunslet 12-2. Rovers suffered some real bad injuries in the Yorkshire cup final, Harry Poole broken leg, first game back after another broken leg and Mike Blackmore broken collar bone so nobody gave them a chance against Huddersfield but they won. There's an interview with Colin Hutton on Rovers TV in which he discusses the game. Think only he and I remember it.'"


It was 13-10, the teams are given in the link below and there is a picture of the cover of the match programme.

www.giantssupporters.co.uk/Herit ... ition.html
Quote: Chants Ave Red "Hi, not posted before but I've been waiting for someone to ask about the Eastern Division match for the last 40 odd years. I was actually at the final, taken by my dad when I was 12. Final was against Huddersfield and Rovers won 13-10 I think at Headingly, believe Graham Paul. The match was a week or 2 after the Yorkshire cup final which Rovers lost to Hunslet 12-2. Rovers suffered some real bad injuries in the Yorkshire cup final, Harry Poole broken leg, first game back after another broken leg and Mike Blackmore broken collar bone so nobody gave them a chance against Huddersfield but they won. There's an interview with Colin Hutton on Rovers TV in which he discusses the game. Think only he and I remember it.'"


It was 13-10, the teams are given in the link below and there is a picture of the cover of the match programme.

www.giantssupporters.co.uk/Herit ... ition.html


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Quote: Chants Ave Red "Hi, not posted before but I've been waiting for someone to ask about the Eastern Division match for the last 40 odd years. '"



Welcome along. Not that it's my gaff or anything, but no one else has said it. I'm a bit like that big fat bloke who says "Good morning" and then opens the door for you at Harvey Nicholls, but without the top hat.

Anyway, when you said you'd been waiting for forty years for someone to ask about this game, I sort of pictured you as the old bloke in the corner of a pub who never speaks and nobody knows anything about.

Like in a pirate film where there's always a nameless bloke in a corner whose sat there for forty years and then The Pirate Captain comes in and asks to the whereabouts of Black Bellamy and, you jump up (everyone looks shocked, you've never moved before) and say; "Arrggh! That scurvy knave, I know him well, I'll help you track him down Pirate Captain, I have a tattoo on my Iestyn as to the destination of his Secret Pirate Cave."

And then you and The Pirate Captain go off together on a boat called "The Curvy Esmerelda" and locate Black Bellamy, run him through and take all his plunder, and then go off and have all manner of adventures on the high seas.

There's probably a parrott involved somewhere as well.

So, are you a pirate, or am I getting a little ahead of myself?

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Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "Welcome along. Not that it's my gaff or anything, but no one else has said it. I'm a bit like that big fat bloke who says "Good morning" and then opens the door for you at Harvey Nicholls, but without the top hat.

Anyway, when you said you'd been waiting for forty years for someone to ask about this game, I sort of pictured you as the old bloke in the corner of a pub who never speaks and nobody knows anything about.

Like in a pirate film where there's always a nameless bloke in a corner whose sat there for forty years and then The Pirate Captain comes in and asks to the whereabouts of Black Bellamy and, you jump up (everyone looks shocked, you've never moved before) and say; "Arrggh! That scurvy knave, I know him well, I'll help you track him down Pirate Captain, I have a tattoo on my Iestyn as to the destination of his Secret Pirate Cave."

And then you and The Pirate Captain go off together on a boat called "The Curvy Esmerelda" and locate Black Bellamy, run him through and take all his plunder, and then go off and have all manner of adventures on the high seas.

There's probably a parrott involved somewhere as well.

So, are you a pirate, or am I getting a little ahead of myself?'"


Is that all your own work? Flippin' brilliant. 'The Curvy Esmerelda', love it. Ship not a boat though, ya land-lubber.

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Quote: Mild Rover "Is that all your own work? Flippin' brilliant. 'The Curvy Esmerelda', love it. Ship not a boat though, ya land-lubber.'"


Of course it is, I was getting a bit bored with this thread.

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