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Wouldn't say it to his face though, would I? No.

I'd be all like 'Hey Danny, how's it going? I didn't know you knew Andre!'

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And then he'd be like, 'Look at your team, now back to me, now back at your team, now back to me. Sadly, your team doesn't win like me, but they could play like me if they used the Old Pies playbook. Look down, back up, where are you? You're in the middle 8s, with the teams your team plays like. What's in your hand? Back to me, I have it, it's two tickets to that thing you thought you would like but which turned out to be mildly traumatic. Look again, the tickets are now my man of steel award. Any thing is possible with the Old Pies playbook... I'm on an open top bus.'
Wouldn't say it to his face though, would I? No.

I'd be all like 'Hey Danny, how's it going? I didn't know you knew Andre!'

https://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordp ... nd-africa/

And then he'd be like, 'Look at your team, now back to me, now back at your team, now back to me. Sadly, your team doesn't win like me, but they could play like me if they used the Old Pies playbook. Look down, back up, where are you? You're in the middle 8s, with the teams your team plays like. What's in your hand? Back to me, I have it, it's two tickets to that thing you thought you would like but which turned out to be mildly traumatic. Look again, the tickets are now my man of steel award. Any thing is possible with the Old Pies playbook... I'm on an open top bus.'


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Theres only one player Rovers have who would improve our team at present that's Kelly, but he would have to get fit and have a proper pre season, think he would flourish with Syned other than that no one.

Josh or Ken do not bring the ball back as affectively has Talona or Michaels Fona and Yeaman are better than you have in attack and defence and all our forwards and Hooker are a league above yours and probably on a lot less money, considering your paying out full cap its hard to see where your spending the money

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Quote: Mild Rover "Much as I'm keen for us adopt a much, much, much more aggressive, one-dimensional, flattering by imitation approach, there is still the issue that some players are just inherently [itoo[/i Hull FC. Like Cro Magnon man, they're robustly built, but the suspicion remains that [isomething[/i is missing. See this article, with a picture of hirsute lad who could probably play 80 minutes at 9 and make 1000 tackles a season, for further details:


I believe that's a picture of former player danny brough. A little more hair than we're used to but pretty certain it's him

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: fc-eaststander "Theres only one player Rovers have who would improve our team at present that's Kelly, but he would have to get fit and have a proper pre season, think he would flourish with Syned other than that no one.

Josh or Ken do not bring the ball back as affectively has Talona or Michaels Fona and Yeaman are better than you have in attack and defence and all our forwards and Hooker are a league above yours and probably on a lot less money, considering your paying out full cap its hard to see where your spending the money'"

Got to disagree but you watch your team all season and see a couple of our games and vice versa see to me Kelly has been average this year with the odd good game and Sio is a class above your wingers and I'd put Thornley above yeaman but it's all about opinions

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In the true fashion of GR, i've done a video for my Hull FC friends, it went down well on Sunday night after their return from our national stadium. I was going to keep it exclusive to the bin, but Mrs G persuaded me to share it. I hope Sammy doesn't mind. If it gets removed because of the YT connection, PM me and i will supply the link...


rlHope you enjoy it...rl

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Quote: Mild Rover "Wouldn't say it to his face though, would I? No.

I'd be all like 'Hey Danny, how's it going? I didn't know you knew Andre!'


Beautiful.

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Quote: Mild Rover "Wouldn't say it to his face though, would I? No.

I'd be all like 'Hey Danny, how's it going? I didn't know you knew Andre!'


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Quote: fc-eaststander "Theres only one player Rovers have who would improve our team at present that's Kelly, but he would have to get fit and have a proper pre season, think he would flourish with Syned other than that no one.

Josh or Ken do not bring the ball back as affectively has Talona or Michaels Fona and Yeaman are better than you have in attack and defence and all our forwards and Hooker are a league above yours and probably on a lot less money, considering your paying out full cap its hard to see where your spending the money'"


This will no doubt get the usual amount of outrage from the other lot but Hull's back line is being made to look a lot better than it is this year behind a pack on the front foot, put that same back line behind what ours has had to deal with most of the year and it would look below average. I'd add Houghton into the mix as well, yes he's been very good for you this year and rightly deserves the plaudits but he wont turn a team thats getting dominated. Sneyd is similar, once players get in his face he looks below par.

Talanoa, Fonua and Michaels are riding on the back of Minnicello and Ellis and the go forward your getting form Taylor and Watts.

Shaul, Ellis, Minnicello, Taylor and maybe watts and thats all I'd bother with.

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Quote: barham red "This will no doubt get the usual amount of outrage from the other lot but Hull's back line is being made to look a lot better than it is this year behind a pack on the front foot, put that same back line behind what ours has had to deal with most of the year and it would look below average. I'd add Houghton into the mix as well, yes he's been very good for you this year and rightly deserves the plaudits but he wont turn a team thats getting dominated. Sneyd is similar, once players get in his face he looks below par.

Talanoa, Fonua and Michaels are riding on the back of Minnicello and Ellis and the go forward your getting form Taylor and Watts.

Shaul, Ellis, Minnicello, Taylor and maybe watts and thats all I'd bother with.'"



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Quote: barham red "This will no doubt get the usual amount of outrage from the other lot but Hull's back line is being made to look a lot better than it is this year behind a pack on the front foot, put that same back line behind what ours has had to deal with most of the year and it would look below average. I'd add Houghton into the mix as well, yes he's been very good for you this year and rightly deserves the plaudits but he wont turn a team thats getting dominated. Sneyd is similar, once players get in his face he looks below par.

Talanoa, Fonua and Michaels are riding on the back of Minnicello and Ellis and the go forward your getting form Taylor and Watts.

Shaul, Ellis, Minnicello, Taylor and maybe watts and thats all I'd bother with.'"


Talanoa and Fonua provide much of the go forward themselves. They might not be quite as effective for you, but if you had them I guarantee you'd get up the field a bit easier. We've not got any Ade Gardners who hang on the coat tails of everyone else and score bags of tries from it.

If you dont rate them then that's fair enough, but Talanoa in particular would be one of the first names on my team sheet.

As for Sneyd, you name me a scrum half anywhere that can boss a game when his forwards are getting bashed about.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "OK then'"

Jesus this challenge cup win has brought the bitterness to the top.I have read some tripe on here but this takes the top prize. HullFc Challenge Cup winners ..top of the league . live with it and stop making yourself look a right tool

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Quote: Wizard crane "Jesus this challenge cup win has brought the bitterness to the top.I have read some tripe on here but this takes the top prize. HullFc Challenge Cup winners ..top of the league . live with it and stop making yourself look a right tool'"

Firstly your quoting a fellow Hull FC fan secondly there really hasn't been much bitterness apart from the odd poster just a debate on players from each team so as always when you pop on here you make sure there's at least one tool present

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Quote: Wizard crane "Jesus this challenge cup win has brought the bitterness to the top.I have read some tripe on here but this takes the top prize. HullFc Challenge Cup winners ..top of the league . live with it and stop making yourself look a right tool'"


I assume you meant to quote my post which if you read you will find contains no bitterness. What I was trying to convey was that a team that is winning doesn't mean its constituent parts are better just that they work better together. Take Talanoa as a for instance, if you dropped him and put Sio or Josh into the team I don't reckon you'd notice the difference. I think barring Shaul you could say that for the full back line.

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Quote: barham red "I assume you meant to quote my post which if you read you will find contains bitterness. What I was trying to convey was that a team that is winning doesn't mean its constituent parts are better just that they work better together. Take Talanoa as a for instance, if you dropped him and put Sio or Josh into the team I don't reckon you'd notice the difference. I think barring Shaul you could say that for the full back line.'"

Exactly my point but they can't see it they just think because of were they are that all there players are superior which isn't the case Houghton has been excellent but in the first few games when things weren't going well for them the fans were complaining that his distribution was to slow and they needed another hooker to spell him but like I say they just think your been bitter

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Quote: fun time frankie "Exactly my point but they can't see it they just think because of were they are that all there players are superior which isn't the case Houghton has been excellent but in the first few games when things weren't going well for them the fans were complaining that his distribution was to slow and they needed another hooker to spell him but like I say they just think your been bitter'"


I dont think all our players are superior, but I wouldn't really swap more than a couple for their rovers counterparts. The main reason being what you guys have been saying, we've found a nice system where even the more mediocre players can make really positive contributions. Man for man we aren't overwhelmingly better than you (although I would say we are stronger on paper in most positions), its the system as a whole.

Talanoa is the one I really disagree on though. I think he'd improve any team in the comp, and that's not just because we're winning, I've thought that almost from day one.

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