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| Quote: REDEOD "With the recent increase in head injury assessments and the rise in both long and short term concussion injuries, do you think there’s an argument to enforce the wearing of scrum caps or do you think that will give cause for it escalate to American football levels of personal protection equipment?
The only thing scrum caps protect is if you have a cut on the head or stitches no good for anything else
Just putting it out there.'"
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| Yeah good idea. Bin a player off mid contract even though the medical people say he could be ready to go again in a few months.
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Quote: REDEOD "With the recent increase in head injury assessments and the rise in both long and short term concussion injuries, do you think there’s an argument to enforce the wearing of scrum caps or do you think that will give cause for it escalate to American football levels of personal protection equipment?
Just putting it out there.'"
I think the issue with concussion is more the brain bouncing around inside the skull, so scrum caps don’t make that much of a difference. They are better at preventing cuts and skull fractures.
Edit. For example:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby ... octor.html
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Quote: REDEOD "With the recent increase in head injury assessments and the rise in both long and short term concussion injuries, do you think there’s an argument to enforce the wearing of scrum caps or do you think that will give cause for it escalate to American football levels of personal protection equipment?
Just putting it out there.'"
I think the issue with concussion is more the brain bouncing around inside the skull, so scrum caps don’t make that much of a difference. They are better at preventing cuts and skull fractures.
Edit. For example:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby ... octor.html
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| Quote: EastHullUTR "Scrum caps don't offer protection from concussion or similar injuries'"
You are correct. I assumed that scrum caps were intended to protect from concussions or similar, however I’ve just read they’re for protection against cauliflower ear.
There is also an argument against enhanced head protection akin to American football as it may be attributable to further or worse head injuries.
Apologies I misunderstood their use.
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| Quote: REDEOD "You are correct. I assumed that scrum caps were intended to protect from concussions or similar, however I’ve just read they’re for protection against cauliflower ear.
There is also an argument against enhanced head protection akin to American football as it may be attributable to further or worse head injuries.
Apologies I misunderstood their use.'"
However, they do seem to be used as a token gesture when someone has suffered head injuries
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| Heff was at the club family day at CP today representing the club well as he always does.
He is a very talented player, well thought of at the club and contracted for next year. He will be given every chance to resume his career and will not be pushed into retirement unless and until advised to do so by the experts.
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| Potentially. VaiVai and Wallis and Heffernan and Oakes. as our two wing partnerships
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| Quote: EastHullUTR "Potentially. VaiVai and Wallis and Heffernan and Oakes. as our two wing partnerships'" ]
Carney and Shaw might have something to say about that
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| Quote: EastHullUTR "Potentially. VaiVai and Wallis and Heffernan and Oakes. as our two wing partnerships'"
Vaivai & Heffernan are both top quality centres. Contrasting styles which is good.
Wallis & Oakes for sure still in the 'potential' bracket. Despite his absolute shocker at Castleford I rate Wallis the better prospect. He is the bigger, stronger and faster of the two he is according to Sheens easily the fastest player at the club. His gaffes at Castleford will be eliminated with experience.
Obviously there is a cloud hanging over Heff but no doubts about his ability.
Let's not dismiss Ryan Shaw either. When he & Wallis switched wings at Cas the constant danger on our right edge was largely eliminated. Shaw can catch a high ball, is a great finisher and has kicked 10/10 goals from all angles in the last 2 games. I expect Wallis & Oakes will be competing for the other wing next season.
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| I wouldn’t say Wallis was ‘easily’ the fastest at the club, over 100m I would back Shaw against most. He may be a slow starter, but when he gets a gallop on he’s not easily caught.
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| Quote: REDEOD "You are correct. I assumed that scrum caps were intended to protect from concussions or similar, however I’ve just read they’re for protection against cauliflower ear.
There is also an argument against enhanced head protection akin to American football as it may be attributable to further or worse head injuries.
Apologies I misunderstood their use.'"
Helmets are the big problem in NFL, they offer protection from fractured skulls and facial breaks but they increase impact and the ability to withstand that impact. This allows the brain to take more rattling which then increases the long term damage caused by repeated shocks.
I fear for Heff because you can guarantee he will get another head impact when he comes back, is it worth the risk when you look at the long term effects even on footballers from heading a ball, that Alan Shearer documentary must have scared a lot of rugby players to death.
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| Quote: moxi1 "I wouldn’t say Wallis was ‘easily’ the fastest at the club, over 100m I would back Shaw against most. He may be a slow starter, but when he gets a gallop on he’s not easily caught.'"
Wallis can seriously get going, looking forward to seeing him in clear space
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| Quote: EastHullUTR "Wallis can seriously get going, looking forward to seeing him in clear space'"
plenty of it in the championship
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| Quote: moxi1 "I wouldn’t say Wallis was ‘easily’ the fastest at the club, over 100m I would back Shaw against most. He may be a slow starter, but when he gets a gallop on he’s not easily caught.'"
Just quoting Tim Sheens who said Wallis is seriously quick easily the fastest player at the club.
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| Quote: His Bobness "Just quoting Tim Sheens who said Wallis is seriously quick easily the fastest player at the club.'"
No I appreciate that, just would like to see it with ones own eyes.
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