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| Quote: Pickering Red "Grudgingly pleased for Hull. Not the classic final of 2005 vs. Leeds imo, but a gutsy and deserved win.
You've got to admire the players passion for the Hull shirt and the sheer siege mentality in keeping their nerve, holding their defensive shape and not allowing Warrington over their line again after Ben Currie's 2nd try.
Rode their luck and earned their win. Well done, Hull. Now go and do the treble for the city.
As for Jake the Peg wanting us relegated. Utter tosh. He has a man crush on Dane Tilse.'"
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Completely agree, br. It'd have been a bit galling if they'd had a jammy draw and then Wire had put in a sub-par performance in the final. But they earned it, so credit where it is due.
It has been an astonishing season. Their team still doesn't look all that on paper to me - there were seven or eight in that team that I'd be deeply unexcited about signing for Rovers. Pritchard as well, given he's supposedly marquee. But as a collective they've got it done week in, week out. And that is admirable - depressingly so.
Just out of interest which of the players would you be underwhelmed with? Not saying you are wrong and all our players are great, I'm always interested to see a neutrals (ish) views.
I'm guessing you will say Yeaman and Michaels, and perhaps Washbrook and Tuimavave (looks far better at centre) the rest are very good players that would improve most teams imo.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Just out of interest which of the players would you be underwhelmed with? Not saying you are wrong and all our players are great, I'm always interested to see a neutrals (ish) views.
I'm guessing you will say Yeaman and Michaels, and perhaps Washbrook and Tuimavave (looks far better at centre) the rest are very good players that would improve most teams imo.'"
If I could pick 5 players out of your team to play in mine Shaul is the only back I'd take (although I like michaels he wouldn't displace Sio or mantallato for me ) Ellis, Minichello, Taylor and either Watts or Houghton
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| Quote: fun time frankie "If I could pick 5 players out of your team to play in mine Shaul is the only back I'd take (although I like michaels he wouldn't displace Sio or mantallato for me ) Ellis, Minichello, Taylor and either Watts or Houghton'"
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| Quote: fun time frankie "If I could pick 5 players out of your team to play in mine Shaul is the only back I'd take (although I like michaels he wouldn't displace Sio or mantallato for me ) Ellis, Minichello, Taylor and either Watts or Houghton'"
Yeah, I can see why you'd take thornley over fonua and mantellato over talanoa and I don't think you'd even consider sneyd over your 40 minute a season half back.
Conversely there's not one player in your team who would even get into our 17
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Just out of interest which of the players would you be underwhelmed with? Not saying you are wrong and all our players are great, I'm always interested to see a neutrals (ish) views.
I'm guessing you will say Yeaman and Michaels, and perhaps Washbrook and Tuimavave (looks far better at centre) the rest are very good players that would improve most teams imo.'"
I think Radford deserves enormous credit for getting fairly unheralded players like Washbrook, Green and Bowden to place where they can contribute meaningfully to the success you're having. All on the bench on Saturday, but it is a 17 man game nowadays. Put them into the rovers set-up of the last few years, and they'd likely go from quietly effective to completely anonymous. Same if we signed somebody like Dom Crosby. Ryan Bailey contributed basically nothing for us, now probably the third best prop in a good team.
Tuimavave would probably have been one of those 'waste of a quota spot' players for us. Talanoa and Michaels, fall into the 'not going to get you to the next level' and Dave K's 'don't use quota spots on wingers' argument.
Yeaman, setting aside the antipathy some Rovers fans have towards him, and his age - still a good player IMO.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Yeah, I can see why you'd take thornley over fonua and mantellato over talanoa and I don't think you'd even consider sneyd over your 40 minute a season half back.
Conversely there's not one player in your team who would even get into our 17'"
I think "fun time frankie" just won "Stupidest Post of 2016". Still laughing.
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| Quote: Bal "I think "fun time frankie" just won "Stupidest Post of 2016". Still laughing.
Tbf, from a self-imposed limit of 5 players he could hypothetically take, I don't think Shaul, Taylor, Minichello, Ellis and Watts/Houghton is a daft selection. It'd certainly overlap with mine.
If you're just saying that Michaels is a different league to Sio, or even a fit Mantellato - well I think it is debatable at very least.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I think Radford deserves enormous credit for getting fairly unheralded players like Washbrook, Green and Bowden to place where they can contribute meaningfully to the success you're having. All on the bench on Saturday, but it is a 17 man game nowadays. Put them into the rovers set-up of the last few years, and they'd likely go from quietly effective to completely anonymous. Same if we signed somebody like Dom Crosby. Ryan Bailey contributed basically nothing for us, now probably the third best prop in a good team.
Tuimavave would probably have been one of those 'waste of a quota spot' players for us. Talanoa and Michaels, fall into the 'not going to get you to the next level' and Dave K's 'don't use quota spots on wingers' argument.
Yeaman, setting aside the antipathy some Rovers fans have towards him, and his age - still a good player IMO.'"
Fair summary. I think Washbrook is and always will be a solid, dependable SL player. He won't ever get many plaudits or headlines, but he just goes about his business and rarely does anything wrong. He's especially good at what some people might call the dark arts, holding up attackers and controlling the ruck speed. Green and Bowden have always shown promise but never really done it week in week out. This year they are like new players. They very much play second fiddle to Watts and Taylor, but unlike in previous seasons we don't lose much when the main guys go off.
Think you're spot on with Tuimavave. He has all the skill in the world, but he doesn't show it that often. But with Sneyd pulling the strings we can afford to carry him knowing that when he does inject himself into the game it can be deadly. He'd be seen as a luxury player by alot of people. I also agree about Michaels. He's brave as they come, and for a little guy actually goes forward well, but he looks like he will be leaving, and I think that's probably the correct decision.
The one I cant agree with is Talanoa. I know you have two good wingers in Sio and Mantellato, so if you prefer them I won't argue, but for me Talanoa is one of the best wingers in the league, and probably our second most important back after Shaul. He can finish, he can defend, he's decent under a high ball, but most importantly the go forward he provides is huge.
As for you guys, I know the life of a Hull KR fan isn't the best just now, but there's plenty to be excited about as long as you can survive the qualifiers. Get a good full back, sort out the Campese situation and make three or four quality pack additions and you will have a very competitive squad Imo.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Tbf, from a self-imposed limit of 5 players he could hypothetically take, I don't think Shaul, Taylor, Minichello, Ellis and Watts/Houghton is a daft selection. It'd certainly overlap with mine.
If you're just saying that Michaels is a different league to Sio, or even a fit Mantellato - well I think it is debatable at very least.'"
If I was in charge of Rovers and someone offered me five Hull players I would pick:
Shaul
Sneyd
Taylor
Watts
Manu
They aren't necessarily our 5 best, but based on their ability, age, and the areas you are lacking, I think they would be the best five signings.
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| Have to admit, watching the game yesterday I was disappointed that we still don't have Watt's and Taylor. Having said that, it just wasn't meant to be for both players with us at the time they left the club.
I'd take Shaul every day of the week, love that lads progression.
Houghton, what can you say, he's always played well against us and for season after season has made a ridiculous amount of tackles week in week out. Add to that his great scoots, great player.
I remember Sneyd playing a very early game / could have been his debut at The Willows, he came on and played hooker and scored a very pacy try, looked quality and is. When you're not playing against us, I love that run to the left stick and inside no look kick play for Minicello that everyone has fallen for.
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| Shaul
Sio
Fonua
Yeaman
Talanoa
Blair
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Watts
Manu
Minichiello
Ellis
Pritchard
Walker
Greenwood
Lunt
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "If I was in charge of Rovers and someone offered me five Hull players I would pick
Don't agree at all.our last 5 games have been won lost not in front row which imo is well matched or backs which if all fit (big if) we edge.it's ellis and Minichello they are the heartbeat of the team our back row is pop gun yours is scud missile.Iike Minns and Thornley as centre pairing just need 2 international quality 2nd rowers (if we have the dollar?).We aren't far off given fitness .as for Fonua he was waste of quota space as recent as June. .In own fans words sport is hard to predict
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "Shaul
Sio
Fonua
Yeaman
Talanoa
Blair
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Watts
Manu
Minichiello
Ellis
Pritchard
Walker
Greenwood
Lunt'"
Is that a joke bench? 2 2nd rowers, 1 prop and a hooker who won't get on unless the MOS elect gets injured? And as much as I don't really rate tuimavave, a 2nd rower at 6? Surely kelly is the best option? He'd have a field day alongside a decent SH and behind a good pack
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| Yuck dont want any thundersharks in the kr team thank you very much -sick face-
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