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| As an aside if he Dixon was dropped we would have lost against Saints and he was our best player against Hull. Still lets drop him,!!!
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| Kieran Dixon has won 2 justified MOM awards from fullback during our recent good run of results. He has dipped in form a bit recently along with the rest of the team, but he was in no way to blame for the result at Catalans.
He has speed, intensity, enthusiasm and a certain X Factor. He has improved under the high ball. He makes good metres bringing the ball away from our line.
He needs to work on his defence (which is appalling) and link up play (which is hit and miss) but he will get better on both if he gets the extended run at fb his current performances deserve.
On the basis of my personal assessment above, everybody in the team is a better tackler than Dixon at the moment, including Charlie.
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| I don't really see either option as the solution in the long term. I think promotion from within (Josh Guzdek) or an alternative option should be sought from elsewhere.
A thought on persisting with Dixon at FB. i believe he needs clear, concise instruction in attack, something like "NEVER kick, pass if its to the teammate immediately to your side AND its 100% gonna make its intended target". Even then the issue with the poor defence remains, if CC does stick with Dixon and he doesn't improve, at what point is enough, enough?
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| Quote: REDEOD "I don't really see either option as the solution in the long term. I think promotion from within (Josh Guzdek) or an alternative option should be sought from elsewhere.
A thought on persisting with Dixon at FB. i believe he needs clear, concise instruction in attack, something like "NEVER kick, pass if its to the teammate immediately to your side AND its 100% gonna make its intended target". Even then the issue with the poor defence remains, if CC does stick with Dixon and he doesn't improve, at what point is enough, enough?'"
Well we had 2 years of Eden making the same mistakes over and over again. It's all up to the coaches ateotd.
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| Quote: Pickering Red "Kieran Dixon has won 2 justified MOM awards from fullback during our recent good run of results. He has dipped in form a bit recently along with the rest of the team, but he was in no way to blame for the result at Catalans.
He has speed, intensity, enthusiasm and a certain X Factor. He has improved under the high ball. He makes good metres bringing the ball away from our line.
He needs to work on his defence (which is appalling) and link up play (which is hit and miss) but he will get better on both if he gets the extended run at fb his current performances deserve.
On the basis of my personal assessment above, everybody in the team is a better tackler than Dixon at the moment, including Charlie.'"
well said, people should just get behind the lad and support him
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| I can not belive some of the rubish I am reading, Dixon is a quantum leap in quality over Eden, his pace alone is worth his inclusion in the squad, If he is not that good in his choice of attacking options then we get the halfs to organise him & bring him into space, like all players we plan our game around the differing atributes of the players we have available we dont expect Walker to sprint the length of the field so dont expect Dixon to stop the likes of Crabtree. Play to his strengths. I also remember a couple of touchline conversions in a pre season game as well.
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| The Ben cockayne must play brigade is really ridiculous. I honestly don't think half the fans watch the same game. Dixon has a poor kicking game? Based on 1 rushed kick at Cas? Should he have even been kicking, clearly he shouldn't have and if were comparing it to BC then he has no kicking game. Dixon runs the ball out better, is a better running attacking threat and IMO better under the high ball(much improved) they both make the odd error but most fbs do. Coming in to the line there both under par but I'd say BC is slightly better defensively. It's a no brainer to me but hey Ben must play! This season the fans have wanted josh dropped and even came up with an argument for boudebza to be dropped for him. Cockayne is a great utility player with his best position being on the wing sadly we have 2, 3 if you include Dixon better wingers at the club.
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| i come in peace, i have seen dixon a few times and imo he is an exiting player coming forward and to me looks more like a winger, his pace alone makes him dangerous but at fullback he does look iffy, think he would make a good winger though
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| A little context here. Dixon, at 22 years of age is 10 years younger than Cockayne. There is no improvement likely in Ben's game whereas Dixon has bags of talent and will only get better with game time in the same position. If he'd come through the ranks as a 22 year old, the attitude would be so different. "he's one of ours, kids make mistakes and learn" etc.
Cockayne was our full back in 2007 when he was 24 and he wasn't good enough then, eventually losing the shirt to Ian Hardman. He's a good back up, nothing more.
The "Hackney Express" is the future, all aboard.
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| Quote: hull2524 "i come in peace, i have seen dixon a few times and imo he is an exiting player coming forward and to me looks more like a winger, his pace alone makes him dangerous but at fullback he does look iffy, think he would make a good winger though'"
Not many 5' 9" wingers in the modern game. He would get bombed to death.
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| Quote: Beverley red "I can not belive some of the rubish I am reading, Dixon is a quantum leap in quality over Eden, his pace alone is worth his inclusion in the squad, If he is not that good in his choice of attacking options then we get the halfs to organise him & bring him into space, like all players we plan our game around the differing atributes of the players we have available we dont expect Walker to sprint the length of the field so dont expect Dixon to stop the likes of Crabtree. Play to his strengths. I also remember a couple of touchline conversions in a pre season game as well.'"
Thank god for a sensible perspective and thank god again that some on here are not picking the team, Dixon is lightning fast and a threat to any defence, he maybe small but is deceptively strong with great feet when running the ball out, in fact some friends of mine who are FC fans and watching the game with me on Saturday night commented on that particular attribute of his, they also said he reminded them of a young Jason Robinson the way he runs with the ball and would absolutely love to have someone like that playing for them.
Dixon is quite raw in Rugby league terms, but at only 22 will only improve with time and experience, i for one would definitely like to see him left at fullback for the foreseeable.
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| Jesus here again.
Dixon is a fantastic threat to have and draws defenders too him each game as they are terrified of him.
He's played full back what 7 times and improving each game. He's a different level to Eden who made the same mistakes year on year and in a different class to the bigot.
I don't care if he never makes another tackle at full back. That's not what they're there for these days. He needs to get better at organising the defence yes but other than that a threat whenever he lays his hands on the ball.
A lot of teams will be chasing this kid and we will do well to hang onto him for 3 years.
The desperation to get the bigot in the team blinds some people. As short sighted as his political beliefs.
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| Dixon is only gonna improve, he has massive potential, he just needs to be a bit more streetwise on the pitch but that will come with experience. In time I firmly believe he will be one of the best full backs in the league and many, many times better then Cockayne when you consider both of them at their maximum possible ability. We need to give him time to develop and accept that, right now, he isnt the finished article.
Maybe this is an unpopular thing to say, but I don't think Cockayne is "that" good really. He's committed and passionate (about Organo Gold Coffee mostly!) but he's not particularly big, or fast, or skill full. What is he really good at? What does Cockayne do better then anyone else that merits his place in the team? He's average and at his stage of his career, he's only going to get worse whilst Dixon improves.
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| Much to my chagrin, Full Back is a position that is no longer the last line of defence.
If a player gets one on one with your full back, the rest of your defensive system has failed.
Having said that, we were treated to a few seasons of Briscoe and his amazing last ditch plays.
Dixon isn't always the most accurate passer of the ball, but he can pass both ways. Cockayne has no left to right pass WHATSOEVER!
Cockayne's defensive calls are perhaps better, but they a'int great and at his age they're not going to get any better, Dixon's arguably wi
I think Cockayne does offer something, his enthusiasm and scoots from dummy half are excellent but Dixon is by far the better option at the moment, I'll be interested to see how Guzdek is playing when I get down to Cov.
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| ALL the people saying keep Dixon at full back I fully agree at least keep him their this season unless he is injured its the only way to learn
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