But it was easy, 12-men for 71 minutes, simple rugby for the most part, decent kicking game, still managed to create a couple of huge overlaps. Except for some extra graft in defence, we didn’t really have to do too much to beat you.

To me that is why we are a team that at SL level will struggle. If we say a typical/average team can field, at full strength, 5 very good players, 6 good ones and fill the 6 remaining spots with reasonable squad players, we’re more like 3, 4 and 10. Chuck in a couple of injuries to our best seven and we’ll struggle most weeks.
There’s no single, simple solution. The player market means we’re unlikely to see a round of recruitment like that ahead of 2008 for a long-time, when the move away from relegation no doubt helped too. Bringing kids through helps, but offers most benefit to the wealthier, stronger clubs who are better placed to retain the best of them.
The two routes I see out of the cycle (excluding relegation and significant restructuring, or a big pile of new cash) are 1) to try to sign a talismanic marquee player who can change the perception of the club - it could go wrong in a Willie Mason stylee, but everything carries an element of risk, and/or 2) Hope for a change in the competition structure that suits us. Hard work will be needed, of course, but it feels like we need something as an inflexion point.

Abandoning the lightweight and mobile approach would be welcome, at some point too, imo.

We won a super league game playing with 12 men for 72 minutes. I am not sure how many times I have witnessed that it my life but not many. Something for sure to crow about imo

Absolute rot.Try being a good winner .I'd like to say your letting yourself down but it's par

Not seen many saying otherwise? As fans we can only react on what our teams serve up.. party time for Hull. Another post mortem for us . Should never be losing that but we did.Not as devo as MPG but a similar sense of disbelief

Only saw the first half before leaving for work.

One thing though, our lack of composure and trying to build things and setting a platform before attacking the right side was poor. We went that way to often and early for it to stretch there defence.

a lot of you were crapping before the game, but yet telling us for a couple of years how good you are and how poor we are, discipline and foul play is part of the game, hardly your star player who left the field early,a good job for you it was rovers today otherwise another loss

Lots of positives to take though.

After what had gone before in 2016, I was glumly despondent but far from disbelieving at the end of the MPG.

Today was nowhere near as bad, in terms of disappointment or consequence. The dismissal gave us a chance, but it’s not like I suddenly switched from worried to confident. More worried, to slight less and differently worried.

At least it was eventful, I guess!

The previous 2 seasons we finished in the top 4. At present we're in 6th. The only bad result we've had is losing to Salford. Getting beat away to Wigan (who were also away!), Cas and Leeds is nothing to complain about. Definitely not enough to say we are in decline.

True colours

You didn't play a full strength team. You had three missing, we had two - and lost a man after nine minutes.

You didn't do well. At all. Don't kid yourself. Rovers ARE a Super League team,and you couldn't beat a team who were a player down for 70 minutes.
Conceding 30 points against 12 men is an embarrassing defensive effort.

McGuire Lunt Hefferman Lawler Mulhearn Addy enjoy your win but don't turn into Mrs B

Cryptic Craig at it again.