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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I know you struggle sometimes so just to explain again:
You finished the regular season in 4th position, you finished the Super League season ranked 6th. The top four teams are the last four teams left in the competition.
It's similar to us in 2004. We finshed in third place in the regular season but because we were defeated in the playoffs by Wakefield we were ranked 6th.'"
FFS stop taking s**t and post the link
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I know you struggle sometimes so just to explain again:
You finished the regular season in 4th position, you finished the Super League season ranked 6th. The top four teams are the last four teams left in the competition.
It's similar to us in 2004. We finshed in third place in the regular season but=red because we were defeated in the playoffs by Wakefield we were ranked 6th.'"
Dont recall any of you mentioning your demotion at the time ![THINK eusa_think.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_think.gif)
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| Quote ="roversmad"Dont recall any of you mentioning your demotion at the time
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You didn't join until 2007. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Is this the right room for an argument? ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You didn't join until 2007.
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So every Hull fan is on here then? ![ASK icon_ask.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_ask.gif)
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| Quote ="hkrovers"FFS stop taking s**t and post the link'"
With pleasure:
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/results/results.php?id=88&z=superleagueThe RFL[/url.
You'll notice the Super League semifinals were Leeds v Catalans and St Helens v Wigan. The last four teams left in the competition.
Presumably you think Rovers finished in the top four of the Challenge Cup?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"With pleasure:
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/results/results.php?id=88&z=superleagueThe RFL[/url.
You'll notice the Super League semifinals were Leeds v Catalans and St Helens v Wigan. The last four teams left in the competition.
Presumably you think Rovers finished in the top four of the Challenge Cup?'"
So who finished 3rd and 4th in this alternate universe then?
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| Quote ="roversmad"So who finished 3rd and 4th in this alternate universe then?'"
In the real world Wigan finished 3rd and Catalans 4th. It's not hard to follow, really.
Tell me who were ranked 1st in 2007 and 2008, please. Remember St Helens were league leaders in both seasons and Leeds won both Grand Finals.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"So the playoffs don't count now? Think you will find your ultimate position was 6th.'"
Do you try to be delibirately stupid Paul or is it a natural gift. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"In the real world Wigan finished 3rd and Catalans 4th. It's not hard to follow, really.
Tell me who were ranked 1st in 2007 and 2008, please. Remember St Helens were league leaders in both seasons and Leeds won both Grand Finals.'"
Im talking about the Challenge cup if the losing finalists are now 2nd which losing semi finalist claims 3rd place?
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| Quote ="roversmad"Im talking about the Challenge cup if the losing finalists are now 2nd which losing semi finalist claims 3rd place?'"
There is a draw for the Challenge Cup semi finals, whereas the Super League semi finals are seeded.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"There is a draw for the Challenge Cup semi finals, whereas the Super League semi finals are seeded.'"
Why has the Superleague website not amended their final table to show us in 6th place then?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"With pleasure:
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/results/results.php?id=88&z=superleagueThe RFL[/url.
You'll notice the Super League semifinals were Leeds v Catalans and St Helens v Wigan. The last four teams left in the competition.
Presumably you think Rovers finished in the top four of the Challenge Cup?'"
Do you live in a crack house in San Quentin?
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| Quote ="roversmad"Why has the Superleague website not amended their final table to show us in 6th place then?'"
Fook knows. Why not email them? It dosn't change the fact that you never made the final four. You finished a creditable 6th.
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| Quote ="hkrovers"Do you live in a crack house in San Quentin?'"
No.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"No.'"
Just visit one then
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Fook knows. Why not email them? It dosn't change the fact that you never made the final four. You finished a creditable 6th.'"
Yeah ok then ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif) we will enjoy our 4th place finish while you can celebrate finishing(albeit only just ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) )above Salford and Celtic ![DANCE icon_biggrin.gifANCE:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_dance.gif)
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It's like talking to a brick wall
Yes, Hull finished 12th and never made the playoffs. Rovers did but their early exit meant they failed to make the final stages, i.e. the final 4. What is so difficult to understand about that?
Are you going to answer my question regarding St Helens ranking in 2007 and 2008?'"
Yes Sts finished top yet lost the GF but the yearbooks show they finished top of the table.
Why does it rankle so much Rovers finished 4th in the league?
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| Quote ="roversmad"Dont recall any of you mentioning your demotion at the time
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Then you weren't reading these forums.
The Wakey fans had great delight in pointing out that they finished above us by virtue of winning the playoff game between us. They went so far as to get emails from both the RFL and SL confirming that final placings are decided AFTER the playoffs and not before. The league table isn't updated because it only covers the weekly rounds.
Now, you might think that this is all meaningless semantics anyway, but there is an important consequence. The prize monies that get divided up between the playoff teams is figured on finishing position after the playoff and not the weekly rounds. So Rovers will have received the money for a 6th place finish rather than a 4th place finish.
It's not a system I particularly agree with, and it's hardly intuitive, but it's the system followed by the RFL and SL. Feel free to check with them.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Then you weren't reading these forums.
The Wakey fans had great delight in pointing out that they finished above us by virtue of winning the playoff game between us. They went so far as to get emails from both the RFL and SL confirming that final placings are decided AFTER the playoffs and not before. The league table isn't updated because it only covers the weekly rounds.
Now, you might think that this is all meaningless semantics anyway, but there is an important consequence. The prize monies that get divided up between the playoff teams is figured on finishing position after the playoff and not the weekly rounds. So Rovers will have received the money for a 6th place finish rather than a 4th place finish.
It's not a system I particularly agree with, and it's hardly intuitive, but it's the system followed by the RFL and SL. Feel free to check with them.'" ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="roversmad"chillpill.gif
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I'm perfectly chilled, cheers. I was just providing some detail on the issue as I couldn't see a proper explanation elsewhere on the thread. It's not as if there's a great deal of difference between finishing 4th or 6th anyway in terms of prestige.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm perfectly chilled, cheers. I was just providing some detail on the issue as I couldn't see a proper explanation elsewhere on the thread.=red It's not as if there's a great deal of difference between finishing 4th or 6th anyway in terms of prestige.'"
Well you wouldn't think so........ ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Bertie"Do you try to be delibirately stupid Paul or is it a natural gift.
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6th - accept it and move on ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="PAUL M"6th - accept it and move on
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4th ![DANCE icon_biggrin.gifANCE:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_dance.gif) get over it ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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