We did take some hammerings under Morgan like against Saints etc but we did have some class overseas players the like of we’ll probably not see again in the same side I personally didn’t like the style under Morgan but it was our best period in SL so you can’t have everything

If it is a choice, I much prefer winning to playing an attractive brand of rugby, no doubt about that.

I think, simply, the overall quality of our squads dropped after Morgan left, relative to the rest of SL. It was always going to be hard to replicate the recruitment we had for 2008. The club looked to become more sustainable, and obviously we have things like the North Stand now. But when good quality players didn’t come through our own ranks in anything like the numbers hoped for, the long-term planning for the development of the team backfired - leading to churn in chasing better results initially and relegation when we decided to be patient.

This is our first season after pulling ourselves clear of that mess, really. I think because we’d done a decade in SL and with hindsight we know we recovered, it is maybe taken for granted slightly - but look at Leigh and Widnes. In 2008, in the second season after our first promotion to SL, we got 23 points from 27 games. Around that level would be fair to middling in 2019, I reckon. Then in 2009 we kicked on a bit. Fingers crossed!

Morgan was a great motivator he definitely got us up for the derbies I think the first season in SL apart we punched above our weight and I think as fans we expected it just to get better and better and it didn’t but every team goes through a cycle

That’s very true. Anything seemed possible for a while.

Mind you, Morgan did have the advantage of mostly playing derbies when Hull were in the lower part of a cycle. Ahhh, the good old days.

Any team finishing an important match with three in the sin bin you have to ask whether the coach has lost control of the dressing room. Disgrace.

At least you won't have to suffer the middle 8's.
Its gonna be a straight fight with London for relegation.
Just as well you spawned them 2 points against us in the last minute after we totally dominated you second half.

How come you didn’t win then

Spawn.

I think that was the word that trumped him.

Atkins attempted tackle in that last try for Cas was possibly one of the worst I've ever seen.

Was expecting the loss and the poor defence and discipline that came with it too. Cas are a very good side but they dont need helping out like we kept trying too
Get them tackle bags back out Sheens

Here’s a burn for us both from the VT.



Ouch, patronising Cas fan, ouch.