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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "You don't have a clue do you.
Also, can you put me onto the person who appointed you as supreme judge of what salary people deserve? Thanks'"
Id say a solider is worth more than a tube driver
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| Quote: Geoff Tipps "I guess you could just walk to your hotel and enjoy the sights on the way ......That's what I'll be doing when I step off the train at Kings Cross ......Do you remember walking, or are you too old to do that now? ......If so, my apologies!'"
Geoff. Remember this part of my kick off post.
ADVICE IS TO BE AWARE AND ALLOW MORE TIME TO GET TO YOUR DESTINATION ON FRI OR THE MATCH ON SAT.
It's likely that Sat should be back to normal just about by about midday, if the tube strike goes ahead the day before.
Just trying to be helpful and informative to my fellow heroes and heroines of the Hull KR supporters collective. Not really interested in the merits and demerits of the Tube Strike tbf.
I'm happy that your hotel is close to Kings Cross, but others might not be so lucky. As I currently walk 4 to 5 miles a day on average on 2 dog walks in mixed terrain on the boundaries of the North York Moors in my early retirement, I am happy to inform that my feet, heart and lungs are fully aware of what walking is all about. Appreciate your concern for my welfare, however.
My hotel is our daughter's spare room in SW London. Bloody long walk from Kings Cross, however, but cheap and the breakfast is usually free.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Id say a solider is worth more than a tube driver'"
And I assume your sole criteria for coming to that opinion is because the soldier if on tour, risks his life?
I'm not even sure why you or anyone else would make that comparison anyway? Comparing one job to a totally unrelated job, rather than actually read up on the strike to find out why they're doing it. Some people just see that they're paid £40 odd grand and think 'fk em', pretty close minded, jealous attitude.
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| My nephew's kids club do this walking bus system whereby all the kids from the kids club wear high viz jackets and walk in a long line of pairs, flanked by various staff members. Perhaps we could do a similar thing but with Rovers shirts?
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "And I assume your sole criteria for coming to that opinion is because the soldier if on tour, risks his life?
I'm not even sure why you or anyone else would make that comparison anyway? Comparing one job to a totally unrelated job, rather than actually read up on the strike to find out why they're doing it. Some people just see that they're paid £40 odd grand and think 'fk em', pretty close minded, jealous attitude.'"
Not jealous at all good luck to them but i wouldn't expect any sympathy from the general public and wasn't it you who mentioned comparisons with other jobs
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| We've our biggest game in 2 weeks time for nearly 30 years and people on here are arguing about strikes and trade unions. Can you all give your heads a f*****g shake!
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Not jealous at all good luck to them but i wouldn't expect any sympathy from the general public and wasn't it you who mentioned comparisons with other jobs'"
I doubt they're looking for public sympathy. And, no I didn't compare it to any other job.
Have a read up on it. Broaden that mind of yours.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Maybe a load of crap in your mind but having to listen to shop stewards spout crap for ten years then when it came to the crunch they did feck all funny enough Union leaders never seem to suffer when the workers do British leyland is a shining example of the unions at work obviously your of an age were unions were the be all and end all times have changed that's why if the unions get there choice of labour leader labour will be unelectable'"
Times have changed but most of the time not for the better unless you are rich and a MP but enough of that lets hope rovers can pull of a win then we will all be happy
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| Quote: fun time frankie "To say they risk terrorist attacks everyday is just stupid they are at risk as much as anyone else in London sounds like you want us to go back to the 70s were strikes solved nothing in the end I was in a union for 10 years and when it came for them actually having to do something they were useless never again would I waste my time with these crooks I also remember my dad who was a docker coming out for a month in support of the miners and the only person who came out of that well was scargill with his nice new house'"
You and me may believe that they aren't under daily threat of terrorist attacks but the government have London on red terror alert permanently. If they believe that then look after the people who work there.
Unions didn't work for you. Well maybe we should do away with space rockets too as you've never used one.
Unions work otherwise we'd all be working from 7 years old and dying from horrific work related injuries and illness (see UK pre unions and see rest of the world were our big corporations now set up business to avoid unions and..........taxes.)
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| Quote: Hessle rover "We've our biggest game in 2 weeks time for nearly 30 years and people on here are arguing about strikes and trade unions. Can you all give your heads a f*****g shake!'"
Oh shut up we're enjoying ourselves.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Id say a solider is worth more than a tube driver'"
Really. The government who send them out.....usually to kill Brown skinned people........ and then watch them be slaughtered traumatised and maimed don't think so.
Maybe you should raise it with those <please don't dodge the swear filter to use words like that, MR> rather than blame tube drivers?
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| Do you think you make your point more valid by using the colourful language, if so I don't think it's going well>
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm "Really. The government who send them out.....usually to kill Brown skinned people........ and then watch them be slaughtered traumatised and maimed don't think so.
Maybe you should raise it with those c+nts rather than blame tube drivers?'"
Whose blaming tube drivers you fecking idiot my last word on it I don't think strikes work nowadays it's not the 70s Union leaders have shown there extravagance at the expense of the workers I don't have a lot of sympathy probably because I'm self employed so don't get sick pay don't get holiday pay and have to give customers 30 days to pay me
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| Quote: Dudley "Do you think you make your point more valid by using the colourful language, if so I don't think it's going well>'"
And again comrade, edit MR.
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| The unions which became legalised in or around the 1820s did a great deal of good regarding workers rights etc and there is no doubt that many of todays workers rights and benefits are down to those union ancestors.
However, where it all started to go wrong in my opinion was during the 1970s and In particular the winter of discontent 1978/79 when there were widespread strikes as a result of the Labour government's attempt to control inflation by a forced departure from their social contract with the unions by imposing rules on the public sector that pay rises be kept below 5%.
I was a public sector worker myself in those days and I can say as a result of my own experience that that winter of discontent did more harm than good for the unions reputation, people lying in morgues because of gravediggers been on strike, piles of rubbish piling up on rat infested streets as a result of binmen striking, flying pickets blockading hospital entrances which meant only emergency admissions were allowed, were just some of the consequences of the union led strikes of that period .
These type of actions sickened most fair minded people of this country and that's when people started to question the power of the unions, many thought they had become to powerful and political.
There is still an important role for unions to play in todays society and the workplace would be a poorer place without them for sure, but in my opinion, the trade union movement must choose between complete reinvention of itself or an accelerating slide into irrelevance, dragging the Labour party down with it.
With regards to the person who said ...tube drivers risk their lives every day because of the terror alert, yes they do run the risk every day, but so do the thousands of passengers who ride on those very same trains every day, most of whom can only dream of the type of wages and conditions those drivers are on.
in any case, this particular debate will be inconsequential before very long when driverless tube trains become operational.
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