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| Quote: A Adler "Most strong leaders are considered bullies by those that cannot meet the expectations of their leaders. Tim on the other hand is being laughed at. Don't believe me, that's your prerogative. Maybe you have another reason grudgehull has gone quiet on offering him a new contract/pension.'" the landlord has had us in stitches since the middle of last summer ,hope adamski extends his tenure by 10 years
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| Quote: Mild Rover "With apologies for biting...
In what way(s) do they find him laughable? He’s funny how?
Because to my mind, if it’s that he doesn’t have an Instagram account or doesn’t know who Drake is, that doesn’t really count.
Also, who was/is the rat catcher? It’s possible I missed this but equally, as you seem to have accidentally locked yourself in your bathroom for 7 months, I wonder if you have created a new lexicon in your desperate isolation and, still delirious from a diet of toilet paper and toothpaste, it hasn’t occurred to you that we weren’t there to share your hallucinatory insights?'"
The rat catcher was Gary Wilkinson I think our coach from about 25 yrs ago he has his finger on the pulse does this new idiot
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Quote: fun time frankie "The rat catcher was Gary Wilkinson I think our coach from about 25 yrs ago he has his finger on the pulse does this new idiot'"
Ahhh, many thanks ftf.
2001-2002, he was in charge. That was about two-thirds of the way through my 15-year paying very little attention period.
My apologies to Adler - I feel duly schooled. I stand by the bathroom theory though.
I’m also delighted to discover that the nickname arises, wonderfully prosaically, from Gary Wilkinson working in pest control.
For anybody else similarly and shamefully ignorant of all this:
www.hu17.net/2017/06/20/former-r ... ime-pests/
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Quote: fun time frankie "The rat catcher was Gary Wilkinson I think our coach from about 25 yrs ago he has his finger on the pulse does this new idiot'"
Ahhh, many thanks ftf.
2001-2002, he was in charge. That was about two-thirds of the way through my 15-year paying very little attention period.
My apologies to Adler - I feel duly schooled. I stand by the bathroom theory though.
I’m also delighted to discover that the nickname arises, wonderfully prosaically, from Gary Wilkinson working in pest control.
For anybody else similarly and shamefully ignorant of all this:
www.hu17.net/2017/06/20/former-r ... ime-pests/
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| I hear it's a delicacy down Boulevard way?
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| Quote: craig hkr "I hear it's a delicacy down Boulevard way?'"
Careful Craigy, decent knowledgeable supporters also read these posts.
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| Quote: A Adler "Bet you was fuming wasn’t you?
Jesus f#cking Christ. The Sharks win one game out of 14 they all come swimming out the cistern they've been hiding in.
You know f#ck all about f#co all. Radford can bring his coaching achievements and compare them with Sheens' anytime. Though that would be a no contest, towel thrown in, sorry to bother you Mr. Sheens....
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| Quote: A Adler "Most strong leaders are considered bullies by those that cannot meet the expectations of their leaders. Tim on the other hand is being laughed at. Don't believe me, that's your prerogative. Maybe you have another reason grudgehull has gone quiet on offering him a new contract/pension.'"
So players that have laughed at Tim Sheens.......so let's have a little think who he has coached who 'laughed at him
Gary Belcher
Mal Meninga
Laurie Daley
Ricky Stuart
Glen Lazarus
Bradley Clyde
Brett Hodgson
Benji Marshall
Scott Prince
Jonathon Thurston. This is a very short list. It doesn't include those he coached solely for the Australian team not other greats as a club coach.
Many of these he gave their debuts and helped make their careers.
Radford?
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm "So players that have laughed at Tim Sheens.......so let's have a little think who he has coached who 'laughed at him
Gary Belcher
Mal Meninga
Laurie Daley
Ricky Stuart
Glen Lazarus
Bradley Clyde
Brett Hodgson
Benji Marshall
Scott Prince
Jonathon Thurston. This is a very short list. It doesn't include those he coached solely for the Australian team not other greats as a club coach.
Many of these he gave their debuts and helped make their careers.
Radford?'"
Plus many of the players we’ve signed have cited Sheens the reason they have this new idiot we have to put up with is in the same mould as F.C. gimp houghtons heroes etc proper crap trolls
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Plus many of the players we’ve signed have cited Sheens the reason they have this new idiot we have to put up with is in the same mould as F.C. gimp houghtons heroes etc proper crap trolls'" ]
Glad to see some sense posted. I for one am happy that we have him as coach, looking at the list of players he has coached & influenced is a list of the modern games icons! What I hope he is bringing to our club is structures & habits that will move our club upwards & onwards. It not his fault that the talent we have is not to the high standard that he has worked with before but I am sure he will improve what our players have more than any other coach available here. And if any players are laughing at him then we should get rid at once, if they can’t see what he brings to our club then it’s them that should be ridiculed.
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| Quote: Beverley red "Glad to see some sense posted. I for one am happy that we have him as coach, looking at the list of players he has coached & influenced is a list of the modern games icons! What I hope he ish bringing to our club is structures & habits that will move our club upwards & onwards. It not his fault that the talent we have is not to the high standard that he has worked with before but I am sure he will improve what our players have more than any other coach available here. And if any players are laughing at him then we should get rid at once, if they can’t see what he brings to our club then it’s them that should be ridiculed.'"
Obviously nobody’s laughing at him that was just a pathetic attempt at trolling by A Alder
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| Theres no doubting his credentials and his CV but for a coach of his experience i cant understand why we are so terrible in defence, something no coach has ever had the ability to improve since we first entered SL.
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| Quote: bishops finger "Theres no doubting his credentials and his CV but for a coach of his experience i cant understand why we are so terrible in defence, something no coach has ever had the ability to improve since we first entered SL.'"
I’d say that under Morgan in our best years in SL will played a low error, good kick chase game. If we fell behind and had to chase the game, it could go very badly. Especially against teams like Saints, if a ref like Child got a monk on with us.
Since then, our coaches have all wanted to play some footy. In this week’s HKRtv interview, Sheens mentions that we’re still a dry weather team. I think we’re a bit more balanced than in recent years, but still different to the teams you think of as being aggressive and physical - although I see some are complaining of a lack of size on the Wigan board and Hull fans are less confident than previously in their pack.
Cas and Saints have shown a more expansive style of play can work. Hopefully as the team gets to know each other better, we’ll improve in attack and defence. But there do still look to be basic issues in the strength of our contact and maybe we should try to get three in the tackle more often?
Anyway, if we win tonight, he’ll be a genius again!
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I’d say that under Morgan in our best years in SL will played a low error, good kick chase game. If we fell behind and had to chase the game, it could go very badly. Especially against teams like Saints, if a ref like Child got a monk on with us.
Since then, our coaches have all wanted to play some footy. In this week’s HKRtv interview, Sheens mentions that we’re still a dry weather team. I think we’re a bit more balanced than in recent years, but still different to the teams you think of as being aggressive and physical - although I see some are complaining of a lack of size on the Wigan board and Hull fans are less confident than previously in their pack.
Cas and Saints have shown a more expansive style of play can work. Hopefully as the team gets to know each other better, we’ll improve in attack and defence. But there do still look to be basic issues in the strength of our contact and maybe we should try to get three in the tackle more often?
Anyway, if we win tonight, he’ll be a genius again!
We did take some hammerings under Morgan like against Saints etc but we did have some class overseas players the like of we’ll probably not see again in the same side I personally didn’t like the style under Morgan but it was our best period in SL so you can’t have everything
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| Quote: fun time frankie "We did take some hammerings under Morgan like against Saints etc but we did have some class overseas players the like of we’ll probably not see again in the same side I personally didn’t like the style under Morgan but it was our best period in SL so you can’t have everything'"
If it is a choice, I much prefer winning to playing an attractive brand of rugby, no doubt about that.
I think, simply, the overall quality of our squads dropped after Morgan left, relative to the rest of SL. It was always going to be hard to replicate the recruitment we had for 2008. The club looked to become more sustainable, and obviously we have things like the North Stand now. But when good quality players didn’t come through our own ranks in anything like the numbers hoped for, the long-term planning for the development of the team backfired - leading to churn in chasing better results initially and relegation when we decided to be patient.
This is our first season after pulling ourselves clear of that mess, really. I think because we’d done a decade in SL and with hindsight we know we recovered, it is maybe taken for granted slightly - but look at Leigh and Widnes. In 2008, in the second season after our first promotion to SL, we got 23 points from 27 games. Around that level would be fair to middling in 2019, I reckon. Then in 2009 we kicked on a bit. Fingers crossed!
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