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Not really. If he was getting a place in the full England squad but not getting in the Rovers squad then maybe so but as he doesn't get in the 17 man squad for kr or the knights then not really.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Is it not interesting to see a player in the international scene who can not get a place in his club team?'"


It is, I want him to do well, why not? Young, English and talented.

I was hoping that with a new coach he would take the opportunity to reignite his development. He clearly hasn't done that. And that's the crux, you can have all the opportunities in the world but unless you grasp them then it matters not.

It's probably best he goes and someone else takes him under their wing, if that's to Hull and with Gentle and he succeeds, it'll stick in the craw a bit, but if he scores a series winning try against Australia at some point in the future I'll forgive him!

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you could well be right he might turn out crap, on the other hand he has all the qualities to turn out to be very good indeed,time will tell, cant think of many better young prospects in the game, plus if the grapevine is to be listened to he wont be the last forward to cross the river,

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Watts is hardly the next Jon Wilkin though is he? If he was, the big four (Saints, Wigan, Leeds or Warrington) would be chasing him. Have always been gutted we had to let him go, but we were skint at the time.

Liam's a decent player on his day but simply not as good or focussed as Taylor or Lovegrove, otherwise he'd be in the team every week.

Good luck to him though, the change of scenery might do him some good.

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Quote: hull2524 "you could well be right he might turn out crap, on the other hand he has all the qualities to turn out to be very good indeed,time will tell, cant think of many better young prospects in the game, plus if the grapevine is to be listened to he wont be the last forward to cross the river,'"



Not sure if Tickle would add anything to our pack!

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i was on about dowes icon_biggrin.gifANCE: icon_cheers.gif

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Wovers fan living in the past? Never.

And I take it that you think McDonnell, Welham, Green, Dobson, Taylor, Galea, Josh Hodgson are better than anyone in our squad as well then?!'"



Of course not, its a bit daft to compare a full back with a loose forward for example. I would say that on present form, McDonnell, D.Hodgson, Hall, Dobson, Taylor, J.Hodgson, Galea & Lovegrove are playing better than their counterparts in your team.

Are you short tongued by the way, or is your speech impediment caused by excess dummy spitting?

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Quote: "Is it not interesting to see a player in the international scene who can not get a place in his club team'"


Yeah a squad picked by McBanana icon_lol.gif Nuff Said

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Quote: tommyfromhull "And is still in the England Knights squad. Interesting.'"

Indeed but this is from the same setup that have decided that 6 of the best players in the country are from a club placed 9th.
So if I were you I wouldn't pay it much notice.

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Quote: chesterwednesday "Yet cant make the bench at Rovers. Even more interesting.'"


Neither could Hall or Hodgson at Hull.

How do you rate them?

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Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Indeed but this is from the same setup that have decided that 6 of the best players in the country are from a club placed 9th.
So if I were you I wouldn't pay it much notice.'"

Is that 9th placed team the current s.l grand final winners tho ?

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Quote: Dave K. "Neither could Hall or Hodgson at Hull.

How do you rate them?'"


I don't think that is a fair comparison, Hodgson has continued his progression from your reserve player of the year onwards to the knights squad, it was a natural progression built on hard work that has taken time and one which probably would have still occurred if there had been a place for him in the hull first team. Hall's a totally different kettle of fish, he is a confidence player who needs the belief of his coach something agar never had in him nor justin morgan really either. He's doing well now because we are showing some faith in him.

Wattsy sadly had too much praise put on him too early in his career, he was going to be the next big thing, in the england squad with barely a full season in the first team ranks. I for one don't claim he's a poor player now he's off to Hull he still has bags of potential, but he has a poor attitude to his career and it's this which will always hold him back imho I can honestly see him playing in the national leagues by the time his hull contract ends unless gentle is some kind of miracle worker

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Good player on his day but i've been very disapointed with his dummy throwing antics, he should of buckled down and proved his worth to the coach instead of asking for a release becuase hes not playing! The club stuck by him after his car chase fiasco but they chose to keep the faith, shame he hasnt had the same thoughts. One other note i think it would be a bad move for him teaming up with his mate and socialite Westerman, but all the same good luck to him wherever he will play his rugby in the future!

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