To be honest I'd rather see the England football team lose than the RU team. I'm just sick of the sense of entitlement that the likes of Mr Rooney carry with them, and their total contempt for the rules of the game and the officials who enforce them.

As daft as this sounds but surely England RU not doing so well is a bad thing, yes i'll admit i enjoyed watching them lose but now they'll be scratching their heads and wondering how to solve the problems, that solution could well be raiding SuperLeague.

If they'd won the world cup or at least got to the final they would probably have maintained the status quo

I will support England in anything - except Rugby Union. Was pleased they got knocked out.

They seem to want to stop all running & passing from being played and hope they get enough penalties to win the game. If they do they then think they have done something wonderful.

They are the most boring, negative, pretentious and useless team in world sport.

They tried to rig things for England to get to the final by putting all the southern hemisphere teams in the other half of the draw. Didn't work, shame.

I'd agree with that HB, let's hope they do poach some RL players.

They could start with Tomkins, all 3 of them.

Didn't see the game (well, actively avoided it) but was delighted at the result, and would have changed my avatar to the French RU cockerel thing had they not made a rubbish modern one. The previous weekend encapsulated the difference between the 2 sports IMO - we had 2 pulsating, intense play-offs, they had a complete dirge of a game against Scotland which as far as I could see was just a string of random technical penalties. Not entertainment in any sense.

I agree with the old sea dog as well about starting to feel the same about the England football team. May be a sign of old age, but really, this current lot aren't fit to lace the boots of our team in Italia 90. Heinously overpaid, over-rated <insert term for deletion by Skywalker>. I hope football eats itself.

The idiocy continues... news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 234032.stm

The idiocy continues... news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 234032.stm

Late middle aged sea dog I'll have you know madam!

I missed most of it.
I turned it on with england needing to score 2 ties to win with 5 mins on the clock and my first thought was 'well thats NEVER gunna happen'.
But still the commentators who live in a diffrent world from me where still spouting how it was possible.

its not that its boring that gets me its that a team can sore 4 tries to nil and still get beat which happened a couple of years ago in the magners league newport-gwent dragons got beat 33-30 despite scoring 4 tries thats got to be wrong

what and that can't happen in RL

I watched the game and I wanted us to win but what I saw was a game with played by idiots. Can any of these players call themselves rugby players? Some of the decision making was laughable!
Few things I have a real problem with in union is the negativity, get a penalty in the opponets half and the majority of the time a penalty shot at goal is attempted and going back some time now, myself and my grandad used to sit and laugh at watching thier forwards try to pass a ball, clueless!!!!

Of course it can, but the point frankie is making is that there are too many points on offer for either a drop goal or a penalty in RU. More than half the value of a try.

Simple logic dictates that it would be a rarer occurrence in rugby league, especially when you consider that their conversion is worth less than half the value of a try.

no it cant really tell me in the last twenty years when a team has scored 4 tries and lost plus in the world cup two weeks ago there was 4 matches and just 2 tries

if it was me i would not even let the game be mentioned on rugby league forum board the game is totally boring