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Out indefinitely I say pay him of cant see hel get another season what's everyone's views

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100% Agree.

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Contracted for another year beyond this according to a report in the hdm last November.
Even setting aside sentiment, what would paying him off gain us?

Indefinitely is disappointing, but it doesn't mean eternally - they just don't know. I hope he gets back fit ASAP, we could do with one or two wise older heads out there, and the sad reality is that there's a good chance that one of the other props will pick up an injury at some point.

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I've just read the HDM article and I have to say it contradicts what Ryan was saying after the Warrington game. Unless, of course, he has broken down again in light training?

The same article mentions Sean Gleeson yet he was involved in sprint training on Monday, which might well have been rehab I suppose?

What with all of the double-talk it wouldn't surprise me to see both players named in todays squad lol

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Get a hit man to take him out.

That's how I solve staff problems, never fails.

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If O'Hara really does have another season after this then definitely I'd terminate his contract immediately on the grounds of his persistent inability to perform his job. Offer him this years money and the freedom to do what he likes don't think he'd have much of a case for any more.

We really can't afford to be stuck with him another year he's rarely available and rarely better than average when he is. He has the odd half decent game but that's not nearly enough.

Harsh? Yes but it happens, I'll be surprised if Hull don't at some point do the same with Seymour. In terms of value for money O'Hara is now very much in the Joel Clinton bracket.

If O'Hara's deal only covers this year then I suppose we might as well keep funding his overseas holiday for now and hope he'll sometime be available for work.

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I thought he signed for 2 years?

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Quote: Wildmoose "I thought he signed for 2 years?'"


He did - so this is his final year.

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Quote: Wildmoose "I thought he signed for 2 years?'"



That was what the initial reports said in late 2011, but:

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2MZymHU1i

We can't just pay players off because they get a couple of injuries. The 'persistent inability to perform his job' I guess would be covered by an insurance - but you're looking there at a 'permanent total disablement' that would prevent him from participating ever again.
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That was what the initial reports said in late 2011, but:

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2MZymHU1i

We can't just pay players off because they get a couple of injuries. The 'persistent inability to perform his job' I guess would be covered by an insurance - but you're looking there at a 'permanent total disablement' that would prevent him from participating ever again.


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Quote: Mild Rover "a 'permanent total disablement' that would prevent him from participating ever again.'"


No so difficult to arrange...

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Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "No so difficult to arrange...'"


I'm imagining Mike Smith doing his Tom Hagen visiting Jack Woltz bit...

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Quote: Mild Rover "That was what the initial reports said in late 2011, but:


As that's a direct quote from O'Hara it does seem fairly conclusive.

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Here we go. Two year contract - option for a third

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Thanks. Always good to hear from Mike Smith.

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It often surprises me at how differently people see players performances. I rate O'Hara pretty highly, he knows when to settle a game and when to step it up. A lot of fans want the game played at break neck speed for 80mins but the fact of the matter is, not even the best teams in the world can sustain that for a run of games even if they're good enough to do it for the odd one.

Our team is young, our captains are young, our oldest player is stuck out on the wing and is often joked about off the pitch for being so quiet. That isn't something that happens with O'Hara, he's vocal and has a wealth of experience at the highest level.

If we can get him fit and keep him fit (very big ask) then I see no reason why he wouldn't compliment our squad. Some of these kids need players like O'Hara around to guide them, even if they, themselves are not playing.

I will agree though, an extra year is a year too far for my money and would have liked to see his spot taken by an approximately 28-30yr old prop who has also been at the very top and has experience to share.

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