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Hudgell is bang on if more spoke up from other clubs and refused to pay any fines for doing so what else would they do we all have a right to free speech or arn't we a democracy anymore all fans and clubs want is consistency on and off the field then nobody would feel the need to speak out

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Quote: easthull4 "Not that I know of I do not actually know who is on the panel. Surely the panel should be made up of people with no alliance to any player coming up on front of the them, there should be enough of them to cover all eventualities My previous post was created in the hope of getting some feed back from anyone that does know the answers. If there are 14 clubs why not have 14 members possibly all ex players one from each club, if a rovers player is on trial then no none from Hull or Rovers should be on the panel same as if a Wigan player is up none from Wigan should be involved as Stevo says it's that simple or am. I wrong?'"
You are right in your view but you are also wrong in that it does actually happen that way unfortunately.

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Quote: Anakin Skywalker "You are right in your view but you are also wrong in that it does actually happen that way unfortunately.'"

Surely it's a conflict of interest a judge or a barrister aren't allowed to sit on a judgment if they have any connection to the Person up in court it should be the same for the RFL Panel. I have just looked on the RFL web site and the panel has 3 members on a rota basis George Fairburns name is not among the panel rota shown for January to May 2014 it is the same people and mixtures of ex player Icram Butt Danny Sculthorpe Graham. Hallas a guy called Charlesworth and others did not take all names just ones I had heard of and one. I didn't

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Neil is quite right about the decisions being made before you even get in there. The onus is on you to prove you are innocent and not for them to prove you are guilty. If you have different video angles of alleged incidents they won't let you use them. They won't accept scientific evidence. You can't use previous incidents to highlight why you think an incident should be a lower grade or not considered at all.

Its not worth appealing as you have to put up an extra £300 before the appeal starts and if you lose (which, being from Hull you will) then you lose the £300 also.

The whole of Red Hall needs a shake up, they should also relocate to central Leeds so that players could get the train in. The stately house of Red Hall is very impressive but hardly easily accessible to all.

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Quote: el red "Neil is quite right about the decisions being made before you even get in there. The onus is on you to prove you are innocent and not for them to prove you are guilty. If you have different video angles of alleged incidents they won't let you use them. They won't accept scientific evidence. You can't use previous incidents to highlight why you think an incident should be a lower grade or not considered at all.

Its not worth appealing as you have to put up an extra £300 before the appeal starts and if you lose (which, being from Hull you will) then you lose the £300 also.

The whole of Red Hall needs a shake up, they should also relocate to central Leeds so that players could get the train in. The stately house of Red Hall is very impressive but hardly easily accessible to all.'"



I agree with the first two paragraphs, but not the third. There's no way that Gary Hetherington is moving house just to make it easier for our lads to turn up for their punishment.

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