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| Hobson plays on the borderline and quite often finds himself the wrong side of the rule book. However today he wasn't actually that bad. The high shot he got penalised for was high but he was trying to stop a break away and panicked- a bit different to some of his pens this season when he is in the defensive line and puts a high shot in on the ball carrier.
The Best fight was actually caused by the Oldham player (was it not their winger Gillam). Something happened on the floor and then Gillam got up said something, shoved Best, Best shoved him back but then took a couple of steps backwards before Gillam went for him again and then it was on. If the Yellow was coming out, it was for both.
The ref was poor in that he was inconsistent, but also didn't get a firm grip on the game from the start which led to constant messing about and lying on. However, his errors seemed to balance up in the game. Thought the T.J.'s were actually quite good though as they got involved and made calls, which is what they should be doing at all levels!
Blackpool were their worst enemies- how many pens given away between their 20-40m lines when they were on the back foot. Two key incidents were Woodcock handling the ball in to touch in the second half which led to a try, and then the knock on from Thomas? which led to them getting another set in our half.
The Oldham fans along the side stand next to the 'All Weather' reminded me of the Leeds South Stand- shout for anything and everything. The ones near myself were not too bad although got irate in the second half as they thought they were going to lose. Some of them seemed to have absolutely no sense of humour though.
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| Seriously, were there any Blackpool fans there yesterday? Couldnt really see them due to the masses of red and white.
If you are talking about high shots, Blackpool should of been down to 12 after the 12th minute when O Conner stepped through the defence only to be felled by a viscious swing arm. Yes, Gilllam pushed Best at the play the Ball, and then said something - stupid I know, but Besty was the one swinging his fists. All of nothing I'm afraid.
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| Hobson's reputation going before him KBL, that was never a red card in a 100 years. It was a lazy arm from a prop being wrong footed by a much faster back, nothing more. If he'd have swung a stiff arm, P'OC wouldn't have been back on his feet within 30 seconds.
As for the other incidents in the game, they were something and nothing. No need to make any fuss at all.
As for deriding our support, yes, we had our usual 250-300 there, but as we don't have the history or heritage that the fine Roughyeds have, we haven't got as many fans as you.
Ar$ed? Not one jot.
It's a constant battle to keep RL alive on the Fylde Coast, let alone be up there with the big guns. We're just happy to be here.
I'm glad you take such pleasure in running us down, perhaps you should remember some of your own clubs recent past and just be thankful you're still around rather than making snide comments about other clubs.
And before you trot out any cliched sour grapes jibes, I actually thought you just about deserved the win, our treatment table count finally caught up with us and we ran out of gas at the death.
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| Oldham fans you did your team proud yesterday. Berating our players,the officials,every decision.(even women involved) Id rather have 200 panthers fans than 900 idiots at our games anyday. Congratulations on your celebrations yesterday but what have you actually won? NOTHING AS YET. Bring on the playoffs lets hope we meet again. Blackpool panthers fans handle defeat with the same decoram as victory as we are proper rugby league fans. Congratulations Oldham on your victory yesterday. P.s I believe Kris Ratcliffe broke his arm yesterday, out thoughts are with you kris and hope your back in a panthers shirt very soon.
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The fans did Oldham proud yesterday, look at www.roughyeds.co.uk and have a peek on Roughyeds TV to see how the players responded to the red and white army. Jealously will get you nowhere. Yes, we have won nothing at the moment. And certainly we didnt expect to be where we are at the beginning of the season, especially when the cheats, sorry favourites have entered free fall. Yes, we are passionate about our club, and shout like the next team, but its easy to slag us off when there are 4x more than the home support. Yes you are playing out of town, but Oldham have in the past, and have passed from pillar to post, yet have grown stronger. Loyal and passionate fans we have in Oldham, that we can be guilty of, but nothing else. Yes its really disapointing to lose in the last few seconds, but to slag our fans off..........you are having a laugh.
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The fans did Oldham proud yesterday, look at www.roughyeds.co.uk and have a peek on Roughyeds TV to see how the players responded to the red and white army. Jealously will get you nowhere. Yes, we have won nothing at the moment. And certainly we didnt expect to be where we are at the beginning of the season, especially when the cheats, sorry favourites have entered free fall. Yes, we are passionate about our club, and shout like the next team, but its easy to slag us off when there are 4x more than the home support. Yes you are playing out of town, but Oldham have in the past, and have passed from pillar to post, yet have grown stronger. Loyal and passionate fans we have in Oldham, that we can be guilty of, but nothing else. Yes its really disapointing to lose in the last few seconds, but to slag our fans off..........you are having a laugh.
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| Seriously this is pathetic from Blackpool fans, it is the last thing we need to be slagging off opposition fans when they bring the majority of the gate, this was our biggest gate for a long time, we rely on the numbers opposition fans bring to keep the club going as we dont have a big fanbase, strong enough to support the club. Lets face it, if the shoe was on the other foot, and panthers had won in the last second, you would see similar scenes from the 100-150 Blackpool fans that were present, yes oldham havent won anything yet, but the win keeps them in touch with Hunslet and was massive for them going towards playoffs, so yeah, their fans were entitled to celebrate the win, it shows the passion they have for their club, just remember the celebrations from when we beat workington to end the barren spell, we went crazy, dont slag off other teams fans for having pride in their club, it was a highly competitive game and probably would be a fantastic match up for the playoff final in october, so just take some grace in defeat and get behind our lads for the season and let oldham celebrate the victory while they can, as we can hopefully have the last laugh come october against them in the playoffs.
UP THE PANTHERS
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| Pathetic? read the threads, no one slagging the fans off to support thier club, just slagging off the behaviour of certain element of thier fans who then go on to justify thier behaviour and taunt us upon our support. Result stands, we move on and up the panthers
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| Quote: kevbanham "Pathetic? read the threads, no one slagging the fans off to support thier club, just slagging off the behaviour of certain element of thier fans who then go on to justify thier behaviour and taunt us upon our support. Result stands, we move on and up the panthers'"
I suggest you re-read your posts, Monday 26th 10:48 - when you brand us "900 idiots". Think you are contradicting yourself with the above post as in your earlier posts you clearly are slagging off Oldham Fans.
Why are you so bitter at losing, it's happened to us all?
Yes the Oldham fans did celebrate, but I think we were entitled to do so and a lot of that was to do with the manner of the victory, where we snatched it in the final seconds. We are over achieving this season after a very difficult pre-season where we thought we may not have a club or be going out of town again at best and for that reason there is a really positive vibe around the club at the moment. We have a team that is very much together which shows in the way they and the fans celebrated the win.
Fylde Coast Warrior your comments are spot on and the Roughyeds fans brought a significant amount of income into your club on Sunday. Accept all teams have their passionate supporters and aren't we all a little biased towards our club?
I've no issue with Blackpool and think that you have a team that plays decent rugby and competed well in a good advert for the game at this level
Also KevBanham if you couldn't see any wrong doings from Hobson as you suggest in your post of Jul 25th 9:59, then I can recommend a good optician to you. Other Blackpool supporters clearly saw him offending as noted on this thread. What about him trying to take O'Connor's head off in the first half with a high tackle, I believe he was penalised for dropping on Chandler with the elbow in the second half, together with other infringements, he's a liability and seriously costing your team.
Cheer up there's still a good chance of promotion in the play-offs along with Oldham and yes it would be a great final and may the best team win.
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| Quote: Roughyeds Return "I suggest you re-read your posts, Monday 26th 10
That comment was made when you tried to be-little our poor attendances so dont take my quotes out of context. What threads agreeing with you? re andy hobson? Andy hobson was neither yellow carded, red carded sin binned or put on report. Like the other oldham supporters at the game i asume you took on the role of refferee for the 80 minutes, sorry the 83 minutes???? I would recommend you take the rose tinted glasses off with all the high shots and starting of fights before commenting on our so called offences. I am not bitter about the result, its one game and one game doesnt make a season. Your full back was MOM and as you say you have a team that pulls together. I thought the teams were evenly matched and look forward hopefully to a play-off final meeting - All the best for the rest of the season !!!
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| Quote: kevbanham "That comment was made when (1)you tried to be-little our poor attendances so dont take my quotes out of context. (2)What threads agreeing with you? re andy hobson? Andy hobson was neither yellow carded, red carded sin binned or put on report. Like the other oldham supporters at the game i asume you took on the role of refferee for the 80 minutes, (3)sorry the 83 minutes???? I would recommend you take the rose tinted glasses off with (4)all the high shots and starting of fights before commenting on our so called offences. I am not bitter about the result, its one game and one game doesnt make a season. Your full back was MOM and as you say you have a team that pulls together. I thought the teams were evenly matched and look forward hopefully to a play-off final meeting - All the best for the rest of the season !!!'"
1) I haven't commented on your attendances
2) This thread. Your fellow Panthers fans, Fylde Coast Warrior "hobson was lucky to stay on the field", or the cow "a bit different to some of his pens this season when he is in the defensive line and puts a high shot in on the ball carrier"
3) The time played is based on a clock held by the timekeepers not your watch or the referees and is indisputable
4) Best and Hobson are professionals as far as this is concerned and showed it again, only reason they didn't spend time in the bin was because ref had no bottle. Accept Fogerty stopped a try by taking Mayberry high which stopped a try but he stepped him and it was just a bad reaction.
You just can't sustain an argument on the majority of your points. You clearly are bitter about it.
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| Quote: Roughyeds Return "1) I haven't commented on your attendances
2) This thread. Your fellow Panthers fans, Fylde Coast Warrior "hobson was lucky to stay on the field", or the cow "a bit different to some of his pens this season when he is in the defensive line and puts a high shot in on the ball carrier"
3) The time played is based on a clock held by the timekeepers not your watch or the referees and is indisputable
4) Best and Hobson are professionals as far as this is concerned and showed it again, only reason they didn't spend time in the bin was because ref had no bottle. Accept Fogerty stopped a try by taking Mayberry high which stopped a try but he stepped him and it was just a bad reaction.
You just can't sustain an argument on the majority of your points. You clearly are bitter about it.'"
bitter about what? Your win? end of day all you got is 2 points , come september is when it matters as id imagine you wont catch Hunslet. Sustain an argument? Like i mentioned before you think you and some of your fans think you have the right to tell the referee how to referee the game, Now calling him a bottler !!! So hobson takes one of your guys high he is a thug??? One of your guys takes casey head off and its a bad reaction??? Now slagging best off , this would be the same best that was goaded into a fight by one of your players pushing him and mouthing off at him. You also accept foggerty stopped a try, in that case should a penaly try not have been awarded??? I say black you say grey
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| Quote: kevbanham "bitter about what? Your win? end of day all you got is 2 points , come september is when it matters as id imagine you wont catch Hunslet. Sustain an argument? Like i mentioned before you think you and some of your fans think you have the right to tell the referee how to referee the game, Now calling him a bottler !!! So hobson takes one of your guys high he is a thug??? One of your guys takes casey head off and its a bad reaction??? Now slagging best off , this would be the same best that was goaded into a fight by one of your players pushing him and mouthing off at him. You also accept foggerty stopped a try, in that case should a penaly try not have been awarded??? I say black you say grey
What's Hobson just served a lengthy ban for? Clearly a thug.
Best - we have experience of him playing both for and against us - pushing and mouthing of at him was because he was giving Gilly a facial in the tackle, so pushing him gives Besty the right to start a fight? He's a tool, and that's coming from someone who's played in the same team as him at amateur level and has witnessed his behavior / attitude first hand.
Do you think the ref had a good game? Are we supposed to not comment when he makes a shocking decision or misses something blatant.
Perhaps he should have given a Penalty try, but unfortunately for you the ref had no bottle.
Game over.
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| Quote: Roughyeds Return "What's Hobson just served a lengthy ban for? Clearly a thug.
Best - we have experience of him playing both for and against us - pushing and mouthing of at him was because he was giving Gilly a facial in the tackle, so pushing him gives Besty the right to start a fight? He's a tool, and that's coming from someone who's played in the same team as him at amateur level and has witnessed his behavior / attitude first hand.
Do you think the ref had a good game? Are we supposed to not comment when he makes a shocking decision or misses something blatant.
Perhaps he should have given a Penalty try, but unfortunately for you the ref had no bottle.
Game over.
We dont get any thing from referees home or away so we have come to expect the penalty count against us and decisions to go against us. Think this attitude towards referees was down to our 45 match losing streak a few season ago, we got the majority of decisions in most games so it evens itself out over the years. As for besty you have your opinion based on your experience/knowledge of him so your entitled to that. He obviously does add to our penalty count which is something we need to erradicate if we are to make the playoffs.
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| Quote: Roughyeds Return "1) I haven't commented on your attendances
2) This thread. Your fellow Panthers fans, Fylde Coast Warrior "hobson was lucky to stay on the field", or the cow "a bit different to some of his pens this season when he is in the defensive line and puts a high shot in on the ball carrier"
3) The time played is based on a clock held by the timekeepers not your watch or the referees and is indisputable
4) Best and Hobson are professionals as far as this is concerned and showed it again, only reason they didn't spend time in the bin was because ref had no bottle. Accept Fogerty stopped a try by taking Mayberry high which stopped a try but he stepped him and it was just a bad reaction.
You just can't sustain an argument on the majority of your points. You clearly are bitter about it.'"
I think in the context of the game Hobson'sand Fogerty's high shots were both of a similar nature- a touch of panic. It should have been both yellow's or none at all. Same goes with Gillam and Best- either they both get 10 mins to cool down or both stay on. You can't incite a fight and then punish the person who retaliates. I actually got the impression Best didn't want to fight after the first round of shoves, but Gillam carried on, so shouldn't be surprised when he copped a few- no significant harm was done to either, so hardly worth a mention, except that it was Best involved. If it had been someone else other than Hobson or Bets involved in the incidents mentioned, nobody would have spoken about it.
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| Quote: KingBobLindner "The fans did Oldham proud yesterday, look at
Your last quote .... you are having a laugh - I am today Oldham 24 South wales scorpions 42 !!!! ha ha ha ha
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