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From the Dons Official site ...

www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... h-reaction
From the Dons Official site ...

www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... h-reaction


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Well that seems to be a fair assessment. As Carl says had those kicks gone over, and two were from fairly easy positions, the situation would have been different and who knows how that might have affected the attitude of the two teams? Considering how well Dave Scott has been kicking it was quite a shock when he missed.

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Just had a quick peep at some match comments on the Hunslet forum. One suggests that without their DR players they may have not beaten us.

Swings and roundabouts.

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I think it's fair to say they may not have beaten us. It was the Wigan contingent that made the real difference in the home game against Workington too.

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Shaun Leaf's comments ...

www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... itchy-feet

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Just seen the score from last nights Hunslet and Sheffield fixture. Puts a lot into perspective does that score. icon_sad.gif

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Just serves to show how shoite we are.
Worst side for many a year.
Sheffield have been the side to model ourselves on for a good few years now and we have come nowhere near to learning lessons.
I have little faith in those in power.
Amateurs
Penny pinching cheapskates.

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Quote: Stand-Offish "Just serves to show how shoite we are.
Worst side for many a year.
Sheffield have been the side to model ourselves on for a good few years now and we have come nowhere near to learning lessons.
I have little faith in those in power.
Amateurs
Penny pinching cheapskates.'"


I still don't seriously understand, even allowing for the lack of experienced players recruited in pre-season, how we can go from 4th last season (even if that slightly flattered us) to being incapable of beating anyone including a Championship One team. It simply beggars belief!

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Quote: Wanderer "I still don't seriously understand, even allowing for the lack of experienced players recruited in pre-season, how we can go from 4th last season (even if that slightly flattered us) to being incapable of beating anyone including a Championship One team. It simply beggars belief!'"


It does but the club and those running the show are going to get hit where it hurts most, in the pocket. Gate receipts for next year and sponsorship will be hit and if that does not bring about a change in thinking then nothing will.

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I bought into the Paul Cooke purchase, and quite rightly, because the guy was a class player.
The Dons had a revival because of Paul Cooke.
He was our star player and made our side tick.

When he first came he got himself into shape and he was the business, a second Holroyd.
I noticed at the back end of last season he was caning the drink and letting his fitness go.
I watched him after the Rochdale game away, Chris Hough's testimonial , and thought he is back on the sauce.

He wasn't in shape at the start of this campaign and I thought then that things weren't right.
Then to pack in playing half way through the season confirmed what I thought, he had given up.

Paul Cooke was the driving force and star of the Dons and when he gave up we were finished.
I think that he was class, sorry is class, but subject to the temptations of food and drink, like we all are.
I am sorry to see him go, he took any bit of class with him.

I still pay into the Paul Cooke fund ... I don't know why anymore.

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Quote: Wanderer "I still don't seriously understand, even allowing for the lack of experienced players recruited in pre-season, how we can go from 4th last season (even if that slightly flattered us) to being incapable of beating anyone including a Championship One team. It simply beggars belief!'"


Agreed. It really is hard to understand why things have gone into decline at the rate they have.

I suspect it's a combination of things, rather than one thing in isolation. A turning point seemed to occur when Mick Butterfield left the club. I doubt he had a crystal ball that he took away with him and I doubt that had he stayed everything would have been alright but this is the point I trace our change in fortunes back to.

The club decided to adopt the policy of youth because they thought it was the right thing to do. It turned out to be the single biggest mistake they could have made. In hindsight, I'm sure they know that now. You can't develop players without a proper youth team. They didn't go down this route because they wanted us to fail. They did it because they genuinely believed it was the right thing to do.

The problem in sport is that development must always come second to what's happening at the present because if the present goes wrong, the money dries up, and the future seems almost irrelevant, or even non-existent.

The lack of a fit Paul Cooke on the field is probably the single biggest other contribution to our decline. Whilst appreciating his on-field contributions last season, we probably didn't credit him enough for what he did. Time and fitness naturally becomes tougher as you get older and he wasn't able to do the same this season.

From the players' perspective, it must be hard to play to your full ability when confidence is low. You become afraid to make mistakes and you must start to wonder what you've got to do to get a win, especially after the successes of last season. It's not as though they were previously used to losing week-in, week-out.

From the club's perspective, putting right the wrongs isn't easy either. Do they throw a boat-load of money at the problem now in order to try to save us from going down, or do they save the money they have for a re-building programme next season?

We have to remember that spending money in sport doesn't guarantee you success, but done wisely it can certainly help.

None of us connected with the club, whether it's fans, players, chairman, CEO, or half-time draw ticket sellers, want us to be in this position. The club need to have a financially mapped out plan to deal with the problems, which hopefully will begin with the announcement of a coach, with experience, who can start to turn things around.

In the meantime, we need to all try to stick together and back the team (and club) to help us get back to where we want to be.

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What we have to take into account as well DM regarding the playing staff is the key positions . For me you need quality at 1 , 6 , 7 , 9 and 13 . Dave Scott is a cracking full back for me so no problems there but with Cookey and Wilko being injured there has never been a settled half back partnership. Also I said at the start of the season we needed a 9 desperately and that hasn't been addressed. I still think we need a quality hooker to go with Kez. Id love to see a Mansson type player at 13 as well , a creative 13 rather than one who is just an extra ball carrier.

Setting off for Dewsbury soon so heres hoping we get a good performance today.
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Quote: Wanderer "I still don't seriously understand, even allowing for the lack of experienced players recruited in pre-season, how we can go from 4th last season (even if that slightly flattered us) to being incapable of beating anyone including a Championship One team. It simply beggars belief!'"



Ive said on numerous occasions Gary that the club have to pinpoint the problem and nip it in the bud now. Something has changed , I don't know what, but something is different to last year.

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I can't help wondering what home crowds of 350 or so next season will mean for us financially? But it can't be viewed as promising.

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