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| FT Dons 6 Bradford 32
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| Never got started today.
Felt optimistic after the Fev game but very disappointed.
Hope any returning fans aren’t put off.
Any clues why Zak wasn’t in the squad? Can’t believe other props were picked ahead of him and certainly not on today’s showing.
Half backs didn’t have a chance behind a pack which was beaten from quite early on.
Never mind, we could be West Wales fans...
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| Quote: Gerry Monside "Never got started today.
Felt optimistic after the Fev game but very disappointed.
Hope any returning fans aren’t put off.
Any clues why Zak wasn’t in the squad? Can’t believe other props were picked ahead of him and certainly not on today’s showing.
Half backs didn’t have a chance behind a pack which was beaten from quite early on.
Never mind, we could be West Wales fans...'"
I know York can only beat what's in front of them but there comes a point where it's no longer sport.
Clearly, the message got out at some point that a record score was on the cards.
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| Seen my four matches under the special offer,well three and a half actually cause I came out at 32-6.Totally and utterly outplayed and the true standard of the Dons was there for everyone to see.No promotion again this season and a mid table finish more than likely.Miller should have been taken off after 20 mins as he was hopeless apart from the conversion and a better prop than Boyle could be fund at Toll bar.Bradford had stronger forwards who once again out muscled the Dons and their half backs ripped us apart.Horne hasn't a clue on who to select or who to play where. If Bradford and York can recruit players the likes of which we have seen in the two home defeats then why can't we.In a nutshell it was an absolute disgrace apart from probably Jason Tali who worked his socks off as usual.I'm sure you optimists will still defend the indefensible and good luck to you but for me the seasons over once again unless there's some root and branch changes from top to bottom at the club.
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| Out played & out muscled .
We certainly missed Owen at the back . We had 1 spell when we were on top & couldn't take our chances . It is a good job Bradford bombed some chances also .
Not going to comment on team selection because I do not know all the facts .
Glad Welham got the mom .
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| Just didn’t happen today some poor performances from some players
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| Agree as I don't know reasons for the team selection, so won't go further other than to say Harris looked completely out of his depth at full back.
We were out muscled in ever department. So congratulations to Bradford they deserved that win.
I am still to be convinced by Boyle, a captain is supposed to lead, inspire and take control when the situation calls for it. I have yet to see him demonstrate any one of those traits.
I hope it was just a bad day at the office, it's just a pity it happened to some many all at the same time.
I feel sorry for Carl Hall hosting all those dignitaries and his team have that performance.
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| Not collecting the ball from the kick-off set to the tone for the afternoon. Bradford were better than us across the field.
The Bradford players continued to make yards after impact - we didn't, we were pushed back. The strength of their props created space for their backs and they outplayed us.
Before the Fev game, I was worried that Fev might steamroller us through the middle but then felt a little less worried about that happening today, after we put up such a decent performance last week. My concerns were only temporarily put on hold!
We missed Richard Owen driving the ball out from full-back. He has done that job very well for us. Liam Welham and Jason Tali looked our best threats. They did make some yards on impact. Apart from that we looked disjointed and lacked a cutting edge.
Jez Litten tried hard when he came on. I didn't see too much of Frankie Mariano in the second half but he looks like a big lad who should be able to do a job for us.
Liam Harris started the season well but he doesn't seem the player he was. Nothing went right for poor Jack Miller.
The players have got to prove that today was a one-off and that we can bounce back. I'm not sure if Hull will be able to offer us any help in the props department but that's an area we really must address if we want to be competitive against the better sides in the league.
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| the main thing is i hope we don't see Boyle in that shirt again. even Muranka puts more effort in.
Absolutely hopeless, he's had his chances now, and there are better players playing kick about with the toddlers at half time.
WHATS GOING ON!
3 or 4 players who played out of there skin last week and this week not even on the bus!
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| Quote: hally's hot air "Miller for me is a luxury who defensively could become a target for Bradford so for this game abdull/howden is a no brainer.'"
It's not often I'm right but I'm right again! miller will never be a rugby player as long as I've got an hole in my ! his tackling and the way he throws the ball away to avoid being tackled wouldn't of looked out of place in the kids game before, both he and harris need to toughen up and start tackling properly and not just grabbing shirts like pansies! I really don't know what boyle offers us for all the years he's been in the super league he should been dominating in this competition. Yeah the effort was there but we have to be honest and say it was men against boys, how can carl hall say size isn't a problem? There props gained 10 metres then another 5 after contact, will anyone at the club say they were wrong and rectify it? I'm not holding my breath
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| Why worry ... look on the bright side ... another year in this division.
The sides we have lost to have been stronger physically.
Some of the ones we have beaten have been stronger physically too ... Newcastle and North Wales spring to mind.
We have got it WRONG yet again and Carl and RH are to blame.
It tickled me when Carl (who I like) in the ITD this week said that someone had criticised RH as if it was heresy.
He meant me of course.
Well Carl put that in your pipe and smoke it ... because I was right!
He is as ordinary as the side he constructed.
During the York game one of their fans shouted 'they are only top because they have played nobody'.
Nail and head.
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| And another thing ... whenever it is mentioned our objective is to reach the final top four.
Not be top or anything ... how accurate is this turning out to be?
We may even achieve it!
But don't hold your breath.
Without Miloudi we are Hunslet.
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| Quote: Stand-Offish "
Without Miloudi we are Hunslet.'"
Possibly, but the best performance by a Dons team this season that I have watched was last week where we pushed a Championship team all the way.
He didn't play. Not a criticism of him but perhaps we are better as a structured team without a 'slippery maverick' ... just a thought?
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| Quote: Wanderer "Possibly, but the best performance by a Dons team this season that I have watched was last week where we pushed a Championship team all the way.
He didn't play. Not a criticism of him but perhaps we are better as a structured team without a 'slippery maverick' ... just a thought?'"
Richard Owen didn't play last week either but I don't think we're a better team without him. Given the choice Hakim Miloudi and Richard Owen would be two of the first names on my team sheet. Owen is solid in defense and provides drive coming out of defense; Miloudi puts the fear of god in defenses (including Catalans last Saturday) and creates space for others to move into.
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| It's not all about Miloudi ... but we lack invention without him granted.
That big black guy that Bradford had? Where was his equivalent in our side?
Or remotely as punchy?
A side has been constructed that is not up to it again against the best ... and let's not forget we are playing home games on a Summer rugby pitch (yes the opposition gain from the surface too) ... the point is that this is not Worky or Haven or Keighley on a shoite day.
So we can't pretend we can do better in the forwards.
Not big enough on average and are getting beat up to the point that really good players like Harris and Martin are not effective anymore and don't figure like they once did against lesser opposition.
Is this kneejerkery?
Probably to an extent ... a reaction to the hype and the fact that sides are coming to our so called 'fortress' and duffing us up.
This is Bradford so fair play ... but there was hardly one moment in today's game were I thought that we would or could win or get close.
So I left in disgust.
I should have stopped and watched the lads getting duffed up.
I think not!
A raft of away games now.
I think the lads have the heart to give their all and not get down.
But they must now know that we are at best third best in this league.
Bradford and York have much better attendances and that will filter into what they can do at the back end of the season.
I can't see where we are going and what happened today has severely dented any possibility that casual fans will come back.
So I think rather than coming out with philosophical platitudes about how good Bradford are ... which will happen ... the club need to sit down and decide exactly how it can make this side a promotion side on 600 supporters.
It is impossible without taking out a 'bank loan' and we can't even do that because of salary constraints in practical terms.
You have to have a big income to up what you can spend and we haven't got one.
So I think we are stuffed ... but so are most sides in this division.
Is there anyone who thinks this side will go up?
If we had a better D/R club we might stand a chance but it is not working with Hull ... they don't even lend us the type of players we want and not nearly enough.
We need forwards from Hull not play-makers and we have not been lent a good one of those yet have we?
So it's not working and the Horne 'one foot in both camps' arrangement is not working for the Dons.
Apart from Miloudi and Litten we get nowt.
We need some forwards pronto!
I am feeling genuinely sorry now for individuals who are trying their very best but aren't at the races.
I don't feel sorry for the management though they constructed this and are letting it continue.
I also can't see how certain individuals won't get fed up with Horne's team selections either.
But to end on a good point and I might be wrong here because I was a long way away from the play.
What made the day for me was in the first half when Bradford sliced us open and all the guy had to do was put the ball down but he tarried in anticipation of glory .... and then BANG!
I do hope it wasn't just a forward pass that prevented it.
I did laugh ...
I thought AJ-B was good again and Howden was good as was Tali.
Dunno about the last 30 mins.
lol
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