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| Has anyone ever had a really sick dog?
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| Quote ="Jemmo"Has anyone ever had a really sick dog?'"
Has anyone had a dead dog?
This forum is going to be buzzing tonight when folk get home from work.
I don't think folk should start falling out between themselves....but probably that's where it will end.
Two camps...the optimists and the pessimists.
How can you be optimistic?
What is the point of running a club the way we are?....the crowds will only fall and it will get worse.
If this is running a club within budget....then what will we have left entertaining to watch?
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Has anyone had a dead dog?
This forum is going to be buzzing tonight when folk get home from work.
I don't think folk should start falling out between themselves....but probably that's where it will end.
Two camps...the optimists and the pessimists.
How can you be optimistic?
What is the point of running a club the way we are?....the crowds will only fall and it will get worse.'"
The crowds will fall slightly but then again there will always be the die hard fans who turn up and have turned up through thin and thinner,got to agreed with Jemmo we've known far worse than this and survived to tell the tale and so we will again.So what ,we go down who gives a providing we still have a team (whoever is playing ) in Doncaster.
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| Don't think there'll be many optimists to be arguing with to be honest
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| Quote ="DonnyPlumber"The crowds will fall slightly but then again there will always be the die hard fans who turn up and have turned up through thin and thinner,got to agreed with Jemmo we've known far worse than this and survived to tell the tale and so we will again.So what ,we go down who gives a poop providing we still have a team (whoever is playing ) in Doncaster.'"
And then?
At least when we were in Div2 we had a good team.....I don't think that will be the case next year.....it will be more of the same.
Pay as you play.
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| TBH I've always thought that level should only be Pay as you Play
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| The majority of the optomist have also become disgruntled with the never ending cycle of boom and bust tho this time there has been no boom.
We were told we were spending within budget and we'd be competative both it appears are now untrue I think thats what rankles most people.
Its the same story and has been for many a year, the appointment of a new commercial manager seems a little after the horse has bolted and could also pave the way for the departure of Andreas from the club.
The club needs some decent financial investment not an advisory board, teams such as Sheffield, York, Rochdale, Batley, Oldham all manage to survive without this cycle of doom. And are almost always competative on the pitch and when not actively do something about it rather than just sit on there hands.
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| Was speaking to a bloke the other day who has been at the top with a club and he put a very good point across about all players outside of super league being on "pay as you play" terms instead of contracts,it would help the clubs out no end,granted some clubs would be paying more than others but thats how it is now.At least it would be a more level playing field as lower clubs would be able to attract lads that are not getting into other sides.
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| I agree should be Pay as you play with incentives for winning and draws, minimum pay for a loss.
It will never happen tho the clubs with money will just offer higher match payments all will get all the best players there is little loyality in sport, You cannot blame the players its a short career and im sure we'd all move jobs if someone offered us more money for the same job.
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| After all the joy of promotion, i personally feel that we should have stayed in the old division and not take the promotion.
I agree the players in our division should be on win,loss monies and not contracts.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"We don't actually have any relegation rivals.
We are going down.....whoever cares to join us is their worry.
Batley and Doncaster are effectively relegated...NOW!
The rest can relax.
Sheffield and Gateshead are too good to go down.
We and Batley have to perform at better than previous for the rest of the season....it's not going to happen.
So none of it matters.....let them all go.'"
I think you're being harsh on Batley. One of the best results / performances of their season in their last league game against Leigh (Sundays Cup-tie irrelevant) and they've just snapped up an experienced half-back ... wish I could remember his name 
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Well if that is the case.....we are truly fooked....and it's the end of Donny RLFC.

We won't win another game this season'"
Entirely possible.
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| Personally it would suprise me if Batley finish below Gateshead come the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Hillsborough Lad"No-one is too good to go down. And from what i've seen this season, we aren't very good anyway.'"
But you don't lose by many, even against SL sides so a win can't be very far away.
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| Quote ="Jemmo"While I get your point I don't think it been an entirely free willed diecsion to just give these (or the others to follow) players away for the hell of it or as part of what was percieved as a mangement decision, but the decisions have been made very badly at soime stage for this to happen by any means
But regardless of that it is indeed very very demoralising
Saying all that, we've had worse individual circumstances, but it keeps happening and happening and that's what get's to us the most'"
I agree, some people (if they haven't already) will just get fed up of the financial rollercoaster-ride.
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"Personally it would suprise me if Batley finish below Gateshead come the end of the season.'"
That was before they got Handforth to be fair.
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| Quote ="SteveRoebuck"I agree should be Pay as you play with incentives for winning and draws, minimum pay for a loss.
It will never happen tho the clubs with money will just offer higher match payments all will get all the best players there is little loyality in sport, You cannot blame the players its a short career and im sure we'd all move jobs if someone offered us more money for the same job.'"
Just so you know Halifax operate on a pay as you play system but do offer generous win bonus.
Excuse my ignorance as I really don't know but how come your club is offloading players all of a sudden? I thought you had yoursleves on an even keel again now? Was your chairman not even speaking about applying for SL??
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| Quote ="urbancarrot"Just so you know Halifax operate on a pay as you play system but do offer generous win bonus.
Excuse my ignorance as I really don't know but how come your club is offloading players all of a sudden? I thought you had yoursleves on an even keel again now? Was your chairman not even speaking about applying for SL??'" the club seems to have lost its way, this started in march when it started losing its better scholarship players, now first team team players , hard times ahead and applying for super league only a dream
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| Quote ="freddykruger" applying for super league only a dream'"
I think you can ask any of our supporters and we'll agree.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"That was before they got Handforth to be fair.'"
This statement swayed my opinion more than the signing of Handforth to be honest.
Batley Bulldogs are pleased to announce that after lengthy discussions last night (Monday) Karl Harrison will stay on as coach until the end of the season.
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| Why am I not in the least surprised this is happening? We've been inept and dull for 90 % of the season. You can't expect people to watch tosh week in and week out and I really do envy the diehards, but the standard of rugby we have had dished up to us this season has been enough to cure even the most hardened insomniac. It would turn me to drink if only they sold owt decent enough at the Keepmoat
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| I believe a lot of this started last season when we paid for glory but have suffered long term.Players have and will always jump ship when it is getting battered and income is low.Remember Craig Weston etc.It is a fact of life with struggling clubs
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| Quote ="wahs"I believe a lot of this started last season when we paid for glory but have suffered long term.Players have and will always jump ship when it is getting battered and income is low.Remember Craig Weston etc.It is a fact of life with struggling clubs'"
Yeah, I remember Craig Weston, he was still here for weeks after many other high-salaried players had gone and as the senior man was asked by the remaining players to talk to the then Coach about team selection / tactics etc. The Chairman backed the Coach (not surprisingly) over the disagreement and Weston was out (although by then I'd be surprised if he wasn't relieved).
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And this thread seems so long ago I bet:
viewtopic.php?t=402259
Note that I did refer to bringing round the buckets then!
A solvency practitioner that I know said that you can always tell when a company is about to crumble when they errect a flagpole outside HQ. I think the equivalent in RL circles is a CC club talking about future entry to SL.
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And this thread seems so long ago I bet:
viewtopic.php?t=402259
Note that I did refer to bringing round the buckets then!
A solvency practitioner that I know said that you can always tell when a company is about to crumble when they errect a flagpole outside HQ. I think the equivalent in RL circles is a CC club talking about future entry to SL.
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| The Free Press makes for gloomy reading today.

But Miller is confident we can cause a surprise at Fev.
What surprise might that be then? 
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