.....the penny drop with the Widnes hierarchy that conceding 30+ points a game is going to kill us? Under licensing you can get away with it to a degree but next year when two will be chopped we must be one of the favourites for the trap door.

I don't think we deliberately conceded 52 points we sadly looked clueless. I am not sure all the lads in the 17 were fit, particularly Hanbury, we have played him when we shouldn't have before and he hasn't been up to it. Sadly the same happened today a few hard tackles and he clearly wasn't his old self although he took his try well.

However he wasn't the reason for our defeat, we just chose to have a very bad day at the office whatever could go wrong did go wrong from the ref failing to spot an obstruction, to Hock offloading without a Widnes player in sight (I admit there should have been!). Jack Owens failing to pick a loose ball up which offered a certain try only to see the try scored at the other end. Failing to respond to Leeds high shorter kick offs , you name it we blew it.

It was a miracle really we managed to score 36 points, thanks largely to Kevin Brown who showed his worth today and whilst we never threatened their lead at least we didn't completely cave in and let Cas sneak ahead of us on points difference as it looked we might at halftime!

The bigger worry is what bodies we will have available for the Wakey game.

The effort levels first half were shocking,it was the same last week v bratfud but leeds are a slightly different proposition and they put us to the sword,I think it was a bit of us being bad and them being good,we arent that bad and we have 8 days too get over our injury niggles to give wakey a game because if we start like that a week tomorrow we are on for another 50+ pt hammering

When will.......

We get match Officials who apply the laws of the game evenly and consistently?

Forward passes and off-side at the ptb were ignored all game, as was a blatent head-butt by Moore on Brown. To be fair to Alibert, he asked the TJ on the first half south stand side for assistance a couple of times and he got each decision wrong.. how far offside was Hall when he took the kick to score?

The best team won but the score flattered them.