Yes i have ive been every home game apart from fax and i watched that on the tv so i know what im talking about.

Hi all, I'm new to the forum scene, and let me firstly say that I am a Widnes fan and am not a troll!

Ok, that out of the way, here's my opinion on the current subject.

The defensive performance was inept, and hasn't improved from early in the season. I'm assuming that Cullen knows a thing or two about coaching, and would have highlighted defence as an area of improvement.

My issue is simple. How can he suggest that the club are down to the bare bones? I think he has a cheek to use this as an excuse. Widnes Vikings have 3 teams. Approximately 70 players i'd guess. Sure, the majority aren't ready for 1st team action and true, the reserves and kids havent played yet or are in early season, but its not as if there is a player shortage.

I'm referring to the problems that other clubs are currently going through, which puts things into perspective. London Skolars were down to their last 17 at the weekend. Rochdale Hornets were down to the last 17 this weekend. This is to name just two. These are teams with genuine injury problems who DO NOT have any other teams to use players.

There has been no denying the poor defence from the coaching staff which is fair enough, but dont blame it on 'not having our strongest team available'. How often does a team have the strongest team available with everybody fit?

Deal with the problem. Simple as that.

Hi and welcome to the forum. Two posts on this forum and already I'm picking up an anti-Cullen vibe from you peterw...

You are not a number, you are a member !

P.S. peterw, welcome to the forum - you have been warned.

Oh and you'll like littlerich (littlebitch/dick) everyone likes him on here cos he's a Viking - simple as .

Dismantled your opening line with your second there rich.

As for your finishing sentence, their heads are so far down the shared Widnes - Wire bog that it'll take them as long as it took Fax to build their new stand to even poke their breathing pipe through the surface .

A few things to straighten out I think.

1. I'm not anti cullen in any way.
2. I like to think I am a realist and speak my mind and more often than not, the truth.
3. I don't like the idea of saying that we only have 17 fit players when clearly we have more. Whether they are capable of playing first team is a different issue entirely.

I'd say that from the '17 fit players' there were more than a couple who arent good enough to play first team anyway. Does this mean Cullen should declare that we only have 14/15 first team players available?

The point that I am making is that we are a professional club with a seriously large group of players (all levels) and there are teams in a f worse position than us.

London Skolars as it says in the papers today had 17 available players. Thats 17 players only!

They are in a worse position than us.

In terms of teams that have missed two front rowers for large parts of the season and still competed, I remember the st helens team of around 2003??? I may be wrong on the year, but they lost 3 or 4 front rowers if i remember correctly. The only thing that brings this to mind is that they recruited Heath Cruickshank, Paul Southern and another second rate player on short term loans to fill the void.
My Granddad is a BIG saints fan. (thanks for the info granddad)

Fingerposts Finest had strong St Helens links. Take off that mask !!!!

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No conspiracy theory or hidden agendas here unfortunately redchemic and littlerich.