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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"That away Leigh game stood in the pouring rain, terrible game, we lost, and more importantly the game was nothing more than thuggery. Smithy got his arms pinned back by two of their players whilst another punched him repeatedly square in the face. Still one of the most cowardly things I've ever seen on a rugby league pitch. I recall the leythers bigging up how Smith was owed a beating before the match and the players obviously set out beforehand to give him one.'" I remember another peice of thuggery by leigh in 2006 i think it was then biby headbutted hulse of the ball
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Paul Hulme was once sent off for gouging.'"
Think he got banned for it too, even though the player on the receiving end (Paul Medley?) said it hadn't happened, not even accidentally, as he wore contact lenses and these would have been dislodged by a finger in the eye.
The Hulmes were dirty buggers - all knees and elbows - but not thugs. Opponents might wake up the next day with ribs bruised to hell but they weren't in any danger of eating through a straw for days or missing half a season with a broken cheekbone.
I remember reading an interview in Open Rugby with a leading player from another top team (Leeds?) saying that the Hulmes dished it out but they took the same stick too and never moaned. There was nothing cowardly about the way they played the game.
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NFP Final win.
Spanking Leeds three times (and one in SA) in one season.
After the terrible start to the 04 season, becoming the first team to beat Wire in the HJ. Nicky Royle > Darryl Cardiss.
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| Quote ="Redchemic"Unfortunately I couldn't be at that infamous game at Leyth. Does anyone know where I might be able to get a copy of that game from?
I'd like to make my own observations and maybe dredge the past up
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Seriously if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.'"
Everyone seems to be forgetting the game at Widnes prior to this when thug Smith had a good look to see if the ref was looking before clouting someone big time....not surprising really seeing as this is a Widnes board. Good luck with your merger with the Crusaders
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| Quote ="1990"I remember another peice of thuggery by leigh in 2006 i think it was then biby headbutted hulse of the ball'"
What about the time Smith blatantly came late into Heremaia's chest with his knees in a tackle?
I think it's fair to say both sides have had their fair share of 'dirty' players over the year and people could reel off all sorts of tales about each others teams.
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| Quote ="1990"I remember another peice of thuggery by leigh in 2006 i think it was then biby headbutted hulse of the ball'"
Richard Moore it was who butted Gary Hulse.
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| Quote ="The Leyther"[size=150What about the time Smith blatantly came late into Heremaia's chest with his knees in a tackle?[/size
I think it's fair to say both sides have had their fair share of 'dirty' players over the year and people could reel off all sorts of tales about each others teams.'"
Yes it was so bad that the 'magic sponge' fixed him and he was back on in the second half.
Glad to see Bibey back, some how i dont think he will be dishing any beatings to our current pack.
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Getting beat 7-6 by Castleford on the second to last game when Adam Hughes dropped it over the line, thats up there
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| Quote ="danavvo"
Getting beat 7-6 by Castleford on the second to last game when Adam Hughes dropped it over the line, thats up there'"
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Yes it was so bad that the 'magic sponge' fixed him and he was back on in the second half.
Glad to see Bibey back, some how i dont think he will be dishing any beatings to our current pack.'"
I'm sure he won't be losing too much sleep worrying though, Ricky is no dirtier a player than a few wearing Widnes shirts next year,just uncompromising.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Adam Hughes
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Toa is great for us Matt, you have fairy puff Nanyn 
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"That away Leigh game stood in the pouring rain, terrible game, we lost, and more importantly the game was nothing more than thuggery. Smithy got his arms pinned back by two of their players whilst another punched him repeatedly square in the face. Still one of the most cowardly things I've ever seen on a rugby league pitch. I recall the leythers bigging up how Smith was owed a beating before the match and the players obviously set out beforehand to give him one.'"
and thoroughly deserved too if I may say so
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| Quote ="peawapp"and thoroughly deserved too if I may say so'"
Agreed.=darkred'"
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| Quote ="peawapp"and thoroughly deserved too if I may say so'"
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mutant you've missed a k out of it
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Dont you just love Wigan folk.
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| Quote ="The Leyther"What about the time Smith blatantly came late into Heremaia's chest with his knees in a tackle?
I think it's fair to say both sides have had their fair share of 'dirty' players over the year and people could reel off all sorts of tales about each others teams.'"
Wasn't late was it? If I remember correctly a Widnes player kicked through and Heremaia dove on the ball, at that point it was still play on. There's nothing in the rules to say you can't tackle someone who decides to just lie on the ground. IMO Smithy went for the big hit to dislodge the ball as it was virtually on the Leigh line. Obviously it did end up being an arkward tackle because of ther position Heremaia was in on the ground but IMO there was no malice in it - the attack on Smith was premeditated.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"Wasn't late was it? If I remember correctly a Widnes player kicked through and Heremaia dove on the ball, at that point it was still play on. There's nothing in the rules to say you can't tackle someone who decides to just lie on the ground. IMO Smithy went for the big hit to dislodge the ball as it was virtually on the Leigh line. Obviously it did end up being an arkward tackle because of ther position Heremaia was in on the ground but IMO there was no malice in it - the attack on Smith was premeditated.'"
This is Mark Smith right? Another one of Smith's was against Watson - cue every Widnesian to come out and say he never touched him!
I agree, it was thuggish what happened to Smith at Hilton Park but those players got there punishments - heavy ones at that and rightly so - but Smith is always the one niggling and the cheap shot merchant who gets away with it.
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| Quote ="The Leyther"This is Mark Smith right? Another one of Smith's was against Watson - cue every Widnesian to come out and say he never touched him!
I agree, it was thuggish what happened to Smith at Hilton Park but those players got there punishments - heavy ones at that and rightly so - but Smith is always the one niggling and the cheap shot merchant who gets away with it.'"
He hit him with the shoulder just after the ball had left his foot. Just because his arm recoiled up doesn't mean it was high. A penalty but nothing more.
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| For christs sake.
This was a great thread. I mention under the negatives ONE Leigh incident and their whinging, boring fans come on and ruin the thread. Much of our most colourful recent history involves the two of us, we're rivals.
Get a ing grip and get over it. This thread is about memories. You might just be involved.
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| Quote ="The Leyther"This is Mark Smith right? Another one of Smith's was against Watson - cue every Widnesian to come out and say he never touched him!
I agree, it was thuggish what happened to Smith at Hilton Park but those players got there punishments - heavy ones at that and rightly so - but Smith is always the one niggling and the cheap shot merchant who gets away with it.'"
He was understudy to Terry Newton! Plus you want a player who will get stuck into opposistion... legally yes of course!
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