the writing was on the wall when you finished... was it 5th?... in the Champ last year under Betts. you should still be competing a lot more than you are

Thats what worries me to be fair, although Brown is a class player, bringing in players like him and Matty Smith wont have an affect on our defence. We need a defensive coach who will get us organised and knows what hes on about instead of shying away and making excuses sometimes. Not being funny but from the Huddersfield game, 13/14 games ago, the defence has not got any better.
We've had 76, 66, 62, 58 and 68 points put passed us by a number of teams. Not good enough and change is needed if you realisticly look at it.

Try 8th.

I was bang on when I said on this very board when they got a SL licence that they wasn't good enough and shouldn't be let in.

The only feesable argument Widnes fans could put forward regarding getting in Super League was that they have a good ground and won the World Club Championship way back in 1989.

8th? Try again oh smart one!

Off the top of my head, the lowest we've finished in the Championship recently was 6th back in 2008. We also had a 9-point deduction due to administration that year.

Keep trying Brucey, you'll get one someday!

Brucey is just a Troll who just wants Widnes to fail and hates us for some reason.He is the Gobe at the games who needs a good wack over the head.