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Just a suggestion.....Widnes replace Crusaders for 2011 season. Crusaders take their place in Championship and are allowed to apply for a 2012 SL licence. (sorry did I say Widnes, I meant Barrow..lol)
Or the RFL could just change all the goal post to suit themselves again.

Seriously...how can the Crusaders be allowed to continue with their history since their construction, any other club (with certain exceptions) would have lost their licence by now. When will the RFL give up on expansion as its been proved that it does not work.

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Quote: soss "Just a suggestion.....Widnes replace Crusaders for 2011 season. Crusaders take their place in Championship and are allowed to apply for a 2012 SL licence. (sorry did I say Widnes, I meant Barrow..lol)
Or the RFL could just change all the goal post to suit themselves again.

Seriously...how can the Crusaders be allowed to continue with their history since their construction, any other club (with certain exceptions) would have lost their licence by now. When will the RFL give up on expansion as its been proved that it does not work.'"


Catalans? Or do they not count?

Having said that I am getting fed up with Crusaders.

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Quote: Dan155 "Catalans? Or do they not count?

Having said that I am getting fed up with Crusaders.'"


French RL heartland with a strong fan base, history in the region and were also brought in on a sound business plan as on this one the RFL actually took a little bit of time to make sure things were assessed and ready.

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Quote: Dan155 "Just a suggestion.....Widnes replace Crusaders for 2011 season. Crusaders take their place in Championship and are allowed to apply for a 2012 SL licence. (sorry did I say Widnes, I meant Barrow..lol)
Or the RFL could just change all the goal post to suit themselves again.

Seriously...how can the Crusaders be allowed to continue with their history since their construction, any other club (with certain exceptions) would have lost their licence by now. When will the RFL give up on expansion as its been proved that it does not work.'"


Catalans? Or do they not count?

Having said that I am getting fed up with Crusaders.'"


Catalans have been located in a strong rugby league area all along..I have played over in that region on three tours in the 80's and ref'd over there. So is that an expansion for rugby league or an expansion of the RFL (few free trips abroad for them)?

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Quote: Chris Dalton "Mod hat is off by the way, the following is posted purely as a fan.

What compells certain Widnes fans from constantly giving their tuppence worth on the Crusaders and/or Harlequins issue?

The way I see it is this. Our top flight status is entirely unconnected to the issue of the crusaders continuing existence. We're doing the right things as a club to get that status, so we don't need to feel bitter about it any more. We all feel cheated about the way we've been treated in the past, but theres no need to bang on about it. You just give people reason to start bashing us.

Yes, were all entitled to an opinion, and it's not great when we are unfairly generalised and used as a diversion tactic by people trying to deflect criticism of expansionism but its high time some people learned some diplomacy.

The other day there was a thread about crusaders finances. Then someone claiming to be a widnes fan, who has never been on here, feels the need to bring up our finances into it. Why? You know what that's going to do. Just leave it.

So yes, give your opinions, just don't feel compelled to give them every single time, and harp on and allow discussions to scrutinise us, it's getting embarrassing to see people invite others to run us down. And for god's sake, if you're going to go into those threads, just leave widnes out of it. Those issues are not our fault or problem.'"
From an outside viewpoint Chris it looks like its a case of your fans trying to get the dig in first.
Now that the 2010 season is finished its pretty obvious that the RFL were infact talking about yourselves with regard to a Champ side coming up.
That has made Wakey/Cas/Salford/Cru fans rather twitchy (Why the hell us at HKR are never mentioned ill never know but hey ho gotta be thankfull I guess) which leads to the premtive (sp) striking some of your fans seem to be attempting IMHO.
Its only gunna get worse IMHO as when it becomes clear that more then 1 SL isn't going to get their ground in time the real bun fight will start.

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