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| Quote: Chris Dalton "I'm starting to wonder whether you are just trolling now
1. I've never questioned you being from widnes or not. But since you've felt the need to mention it, I'm now starting to wonder.
Wonder away.
2. I've never mentioned pride, I've never clarified whether I believe you have any or I have more or less, MUCH LESS believed I had some sort of monopoly on pride. Its a nonargument whenever it comes up and I haven't.
Now you're making excuses.
3. Subservience to Red Hall? That is a joke and a half. You have no idea about me and if you think that you are showing how clueless you really are.
I have enough idea to know you'll be the first to start moaning when shenanigans from Red Hall pop up again. And they will; and you will.
4. There are no shackles on Steve O Connor. He is just showing a knack for diplomacy which you completely lack so far. When things don't go your way for whatever reason, you can either stamp your feet, moan and shut yourself off from the world or you can pick yourself up and move forwards. I had a good little moan at the time of the franchise announcements but the world has moved on and you need to move on as well. Stop dragging it up. We can't change it. It was a loving travesty but we can't do anything about it. All we can do is come out fighting. We're eligable to apply now, and we have so far the strongest case by a distance. So show your support in other ways, don't drag the mood down join in with the better mood.
What represents "eligibility" to Lewis et al isn't even worth the uncertainty the term naturally carries, never mind converting it into a franchise. We will likely get one but there are wider issues. Ignore them at your peril. The game's future is at stake.
And my principled grievances go back to 1995, matey, when I predicted everything that has ensued. It isn't a convenient short-term bandwagon to get on and off when it suits like your "moving on coz the world has".
Where do you think RL will be in another 10-15 years, eh? If expansion a la the past and current methods and, erm, eligibility for it goes on how many historic clubs and which ones, will make way for, say, an Irish club, Scottish club, Toulouse? SL's intention is to base clubs in the big cities, fella, or ones near enough to count in their Sky masters' eyes.
Warrington are already seen as the prime "Cheshire" club - don't kid yourself on that. So which clubs will have to go? Unless you think SL will have 20+ clubs or more laughably, 2 divisions.
That is, if you're not as I suggested earlier a troll account from one of the usual suspects.'"
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| Quote: Bertie Magoo's PA "Strangely I am more inclined to agree with you nowadays.
However I do not trust the RFL as far as I can throw them,but if we manage to win another NRC and a gf, and maintain an average gate of anything between 3-4k, I can't see a reason for them not to allow us entry.
You are spot on about the positive attitude that the club have displayed though since last July. SOC should be congratulated for that. Things looking to be coming together nicely on the paddock too round about now. A win on Sunday is vital.
As for Wires, I hope u lose every game anyway. ![]()
You already have things like finances and stadium in place, and the excuse of liquidation will not be there next year when decisions are being made.
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| Quote: Norton "How ironic you seeing tradition in the Challenge Cup, which I didn't attack. Reread what I said. The only people who attacked its status were those who tossed it up in the air, faffed around with its long-standing format and banished it to a daft August conclusion. Lindsay and co. initially. Summer RL is no excuse for it.
What particularly galls me with folk like you is how you just can't grasp the plain fact change doesn't guarantee progress. If not it is simply change for change's sake. Like I've said, it's HOW you do it.'" So basically your issue is that the final is in Augsut instead of April/May?
Jeeze. It is still the same tournament, and the crowds for the final are as big as ever. Stop being a drama queen.
My team is involved in the semi this week, and the excitement around the town is as great as any previous semi final, whatever the date was. | | |
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| Quote: Dave T "I can understand people not wanting Wire to win (or Saints, Wigan or Hudds, as everybody has different reasons) but this post is just a load of bitter nonsense.
Surely the Challenge Cup is the one bit of RL that hasn't changed. It hasn;t been affected by licensing etc. I can understand Widnes fans being bitter about SL (until they get in there in a couple of years, and then everything will be forgotten), but I don;t really understand the attack on the cup.'"
I can see both points tbh.
I cannot be d with the challenge cup, or SL.
I don't really support the sport of Rugby League. I support the Widnes Vikings.
Before the last time Widnes got screwed I used to go to the odd grand final, but now I am just not that interested.
I just don't really care for SL, and the RFL in general, and would rather support my club, rather that a sports governing body who have seeked to screw my team over time and time again.
I'm not bitter about it, I've just lost heart for the sport in general. So if Widnes are not involved, I don't really care. | | | |
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| Quote: AlLegEnd "I can see both points tbh.
I cannot be d with the challenge cup, or SL.
I don't really support the sport of Rugby League. I support the Widnes Vikings.
Before the last time Widnes got screwed I used to go to the odd grand final, but now I am just not that interested.
I just don't really care for SL, and the RFL in general, and would rather support my club, rather that a sports governing body who have seeked to screw my team over time and time again.
I'm not bitter about it, I've just lost heart for the sport in general. So if Widnes are not involved, I don't really care.'"
Never has a truer sentence been posted. 3-4 years ago, friday night i would watch Sl religously with my dad etc, nowadays I'll see whats happening on Albert sq or in the rovers. | | |
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| Quote: Dave T "So basically your issue is that the final is in Augsut instead of April/May?
Jeeze. It is still the same tournament, and the crowds for the final are as big as ever. Stop being a drama queen.
My team is involved in the semi this week, and the excitement around the town is as great as any previous semi final, whatever the date was.'"
"Drama queen" - how novel. How inappropriate. There is no "drama" involved in the points I make, you noodle. And, if you can't see that the August shift is detrimental to the competition as a whole - for Christ's sake why such an illogical gap between the quarters and semis/final, which actually is a half-baked attempt to give them exclusive importance, something no other body in charge of an outdoor team sport but ours could dream up - then you're welcome to the hysteria you say your town is experiencing at this time.
It isn't just about it being in August, it is a whole modus operandi. Where manipulation to promote not only Sky's agenda but the personal ones of, hilariously, folk who know f**k all about RL. And this results in change for change's sake.
The Challenge Cup has been degraded. Laughably, for the sake of a Grand Final system where THE most prestigious achievement, that of being the showcase league champions, now means nothing.
You go and enjoy your semi-final tomorrow. Just don't think your fleeting enthusiasm represents anything like the genuine passion RL's once-beloved Challenge Cup used to engender; across ALL of RL. | | | |
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