FORUMS > Hull FC > Disciplinary Process. |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2019 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| It seems to me that every week there is an outpouring of righteous indignation regarding the results of the invisible disciplinary process. I believe that clubs, players, and supporters deserve a fairer, more transparent system.
So how about this for an idea.
Any player who, for whatever reason becomes subject to disciplinary action should be entitled to the following.
1. The player and his representative should be invited to attend the hearing.
2. The evidence used to determine the outcome, be it video or a report, should be reviewed with the player and his representative in attendance.
3. Both sides state their case regarding the evidence and the panel make their decision.
4. Decision a. Player accepts punishment.
Decision b. Panel accepts players explanation and no case to answer.
Decision c. Panel does not accept players explanation and sets punishment accordingly.
5. In the case of decision c, the announcement would be that the panel did not accept the players evidence and explanation and punishment set as per regulations.
An independent adjudicator would be ideal but within the RL family I don't think such a person exists.
It's not ideal but might help to clarify the suggestions bandied about of unfair treatment.
Any thoughts ?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 5318 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
|
| Quote: RFL "The decision on whether a player should be charged with On Field Misconduct resulting from a professional match is made by the RFL's Match Review Panel.
Any cases requiring a hearing are heard by the independent Operational Rules Tribunal which is made up of a legally qualified Chair (a serving or retired Judge) and the side members are ex-professional players
'"
What you're saying is roughly what happens now, the only difference is that contesting a ban comes after the decision to ban you has effectively been made, making it difficult to get overturned as it would show that the panel got it wrong.
The system was made to speed up the process as much as anything else.
There could be 50+ incidents a week to look at and the charge/no charge decision is taken first.
It works fine unless your players are charged or opposing players are not charged.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2019 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| It's the difficulty of overturning a decision that needs addressing. If both parties review the evidence together a decision could be reached mutually, not always I agree, but it also stops the timewasting appeal process.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 5318 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3065 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| At the minute they just ask the lass on the drive through window what she thinks
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 5318 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
|
| Managed to pick up the Connor ban, a bit long, only taken a month for the rfl site to work properly...….
Quote: "Jake Connor -Hull FC
St Helens v Hull FC -Warm Up Matches
Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade*
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 5318 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
|
| Relatively quiet this weekend...
Quote: "Nathan Mason (London) - Grade A Trip - 0 Match Penalty Notice
Ratu Naulago (Hull FC) - Grade A Contact with Match Official - 0 Match Penalty Notice
Thomas Leuluai (Wigan) - Grade A Dangerous Contact - 0 Match Penalty Notice
Joel Tomkins (Hull KR) - Grade D Questioning integrity of Match Official - Refer to tribunal
Cautions
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 6674 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2018 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
76734_1552479949.jpeg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76734.jpeg |
|
| Quote: ccs "Relatively quiet this weekend...
'"
Hallelujah
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 43 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2019 | 6 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| So there’s no case to answer for
Sam Tomkins pushing the referee to the ground.
Wow !
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1301 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Aug 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
42176_1272956469.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_42176.gif |
|
| Joel Tomkins (Hull KR) - Grade D Questioning integrity of Match Official - Refer to tribunal
Ouch, the way they are going giving out bans this might be 3 or 4 if found guilty.
|
|
|
| The way our luck has been I expected Danny to be sited for this tackle on Marc.....
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 5318 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
|
| … fortunately, hand on the ball doesn't matter any more, still a goal.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1331 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
fonds noir/Sulley.gif :fonds noir/Sulley.gif |
|
| Quote: ccs "Details of Charge / Reason for NF
You know, i'm sure we had a played banned for similar in the last few years.
|
|
|
|
|
|