Listening to Radford after the game he said he want Bower to play but couldn't due to the salary cap. As i understood it the first 25 players counted on the cap. So does this mean although Logan is now fit he cannot play either?

Radford said that Logan might be available this week.

Good job the cap is increasing next year, needs to with all these injuries.

Just had another look at the cap regulations.

It's the top 25 earners plus anyone else who has played in a relevant cap game.



Not sure what "will or do play" is about.

Edit: I guess that with the cap being live, "will play" applies in Bower's case, being his first match of the season.

Does that mean Hadley counts then?

Not good if you get loads of injury's that you cannot use your kids. Maybe a rule change is needed or dispensation so kids under said age can play without putting you over the cap.

No.

Yeah have used 25 players so must be saving the remaining money for when Logan is back

In theory, Logan already counts on the cap.

Then surely in theory Hadley also counts?

The only thing I can think of is if he doesn't play and plays for another side (who pay his wages), it doesn't count on your cap?

That's all I can think of too, when did he first go to Wakefield?

No - he's out on loan.

Think you have too play to count on the cap I'm sure if you don't play for 6 months you don't count

Never an ideal set of rules when there's so much confusion around who counts and who doesn't.
I get that Hadley is out on loan and that's obviously why he doesn't count but he'll be in the top 25 and registered with Hull so theoretically he should count for Hull?

Quote: Baxendale "Never an ideal set of rules when there's so much confusion around who counts and who doesn't. I get that Hadley is out on loan and that's obviously why he doesn't count but he'll be in the top 25 and registered with Hull so theoretically he should count for Hull?'" No he doesn't.... Quote: Baxendale ". (i) where a Super League Club is the loaning Club, the Player shall cease to be a considered to be a Player of that Club for the purpose of calculating its Aggregate Liability for the duration of the Loan; (ii) where a Super League Club is the loanee Club, the Player’s full Salary Cap Value at his original Club (for the avoidance of doubt excluding any dispensations that related only to the Original Club) shall count towards the loanee Club’s Aggregate Liability. SUPER LEAGUE SALARY CAP REGULATIONS Operational Rules– Super League Salary Cap Regulations For the avoidance of doubt any agreement reached between the Clubs from and to which a Player is loaned as to who pays the Player’s salary (or part thereof) has no relevance to the treatment of the Player in accordance with this Clause.'" The latest cap rules are here, but even more difficult to follow.... www.rugby-league.com/operational-rules/#p=1

Quote: Baxendale "Never an ideal set of rules when there's so much confusion around who counts and who doesn't. I get that Hadley is out on loan and that's obviously why he doesn't count but he'll be in the top 25 and registered with Hull so theoretically he should count for Hull?'" No he doesn't.... Quote: Baxendale ". (i) where a Super League Club is the loaning Club, the Player shall cease to be a considered to be a Player of that Club for the purpose of calculating its Aggregate Liability for the duration of the Loan; (ii) where a Super League Club is the loanee Club, the Player’s full Salary Cap Value at his original Club (for the avoidance of doubt excluding any dispensations that related only to the Original Club) shall count towards the loanee Club’s Aggregate Liability. SUPER LEAGUE SALARY CAP REGULATIONS Operational Rules– Super League Salary Cap Regulations For the avoidance of doubt any agreement reached between the Clubs from and to which a Player is loaned as to who pays the Player’s salary (or part thereof) has no relevance to the treatment of the Player in accordance with this Clause.'" The latest cap rules are here, but even more difficult to follow.... www.rugby-league.com/operational-rules/#p=1