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| The squad for 2016 looks very light in the goal kicking department.
An area I thought we were poor in last season and we look even weaker going into 2016.
As far as I am aware none of the new signings are goal kickers and with the loss of Rankin we certainly look a lot poorer.
Mark Sneyd seemed way below average last season (not looked at the stats) for first choice goal kicker and from wide out on his wrong side was getting nowhere near.
Lee Smith could well improve us in this department if he is signed as I seem to remember him kicking well for Wakefield when I saw them last season just the other parts of is game that worry me a little.
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| It's not just goal kicking but field kicking too. sneyd is hot and miss and pryce has no kicking game so unless abdul is on the field we'll be average at best
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| Quote: Diver "The squad for 2016 looks very light in the goal kicking department.
An area I thought we were poor in last season and we look even weaker going into 2016.
As far as I am aware none of the new signings are goal kickers and with the loss of Rankin we certainly look a lot poorer.
Mark Sneyd seemed way below average last season (not looked at the stats) for first choice goal kicker and from wide out on his wrong side was getting nowhere near.
Lee Smith could well improve us in this department if he is signed as I seem to remember him kicking well for Wakefield when I saw them last season just the other parts of is game that worry me a little.'"
It would be interesting to compare Sneyd's percentage for us last season against the season before with Cas. Does anybody know where to find these stats? Towards the end of last season he seemed to alter his style but it didn't seem to have much effect.
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "It would be interesting to compare Sneyd's percentage for us last season against the season before with Cas. Does anybody know where to find these stats? Towards the end of last season he seemed to alter his style but it didn't seem to have much effect.'"
Sneyd's kicking from both sides wide out was very poor.
I wouldnt surprise me if stats were available to find more of his conversions at Castleford were much nearer to the posts.
I like Sneyd as a player but he is far from a quality reliable goalkicker
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| IMO sneyd was a mixed bag on his kicking. But hopefully he has his kicking boots on this year and if so we have no worries. IMO we also have abdull who has a massive kicking game and maybe see more from Houghton so not to bad
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "It would be interesting to compare Sneyd's percentage for us last season against the season before with Cas. Does anybody know where to find these stats? Towards the end of last season he seemed to alter his style but it didn't seem to have much effect.'"
I put some stats on here a few weeks back. Sneyd was on about 69% in 2015. Down from 2014 at Cas. Also lower than both Rankin and Crooks for Hull in 2014.
We need him to be somewhere around 80%. Last season his goalkicking was just not good enough.
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| We've certainly had some players "steal" a living from us in the past, but I think incarceration is probably taking it a little too far!
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| Quote: Stanley Unwin "We've certainly had some players "steal" a living from us in the past, but I think incarceration is probably taking it a little too far!'"
Ha ha yes sorry about thr title to the thread, read it through before I posted and still missed it.
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| Like all kickers its a confidence thing and think his confidensce went towards the end of the season for some reason.Personally think we will see the best of Sneyd next season,he will have had a full season alongside Pryce and a off season,which will benefit them both,as for kicking yes he was below his normal standards but maybe the change of ground affected him as KC is a damn sight bigger than Cas and he seemed to kick better away from home.
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| Sneyd and Pryce had a full pre-season together before last season. Neither of them were last minute signings.
If Sneyd is injured or banned I think we only have Abdul as a goal kicker.
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| Just score under the sticks. Sorted
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| give the job to Feka
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| Sneyd curves the ball in flight too much to ever be consistently effective from the left side. Last season we had Rankin and Westerman who could have been called upon for kicks from that side but weren't used. Now they are gone. We were spoiled for many years in having a genuine top class kicker in Tickle - no one has been as good since he left. Having said that although the goal kicking could be better its not a disaster area either,
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I put some stats on here a few weeks back. Sneyd was on about 69% in 2015. Down from 2014 at Cas. Also lower than both Rankin and Crooks for Hull in 2014.
We need him to be somewhere around 80%. Last season his goalkicking was just not good enough.'"
Yep you're right. Some stato:
2015 for us: 69 goals from 101 attempts: 68.3%
2014 for Cas: 99 goals from 129 attempts: 76.7%
2013 for Salford: 55 from 77 attempts: 71.4%
Danny Tickle as a comparison was at 83.3% in 2013 and 85.4% in 2012.
If you applied Tickle's benchmark of 84% to the 101 attempts, vs the 68.3%, it's a difference of about 33 extra points for the season we missed in 2015. Needs a big improvement.
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| whoever is kicking needs to be practising like Sinfield did, also needs the back up kicker to be doing the same, they need to be sick of the sight of a kicking tee by the start of the season.
It's small details like this that can and will make a difference in the results as well as giving a boost on the individual if not the team in live play.
Watching the ball sail wide of the sticks for a 6th time out of 6 (Catalans at home) must be soul destroying when even 3 of those kicks would have resulted in a victory in that particular game.
Aside from the odd tidy short kick by Sneyd and a few lengthy ones by Adbul toward the back end we were shocking, I think we were the only team not to kick a 40/20 all season.
This has to improve, Sneyd is a specialist place kicker and he should be aiming to be closer to 80% than 70, he has the ability to kick them from wide out so he needs to figure out what to do to improve things.
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