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| Thought this might be worth a discussion, and will update as we go through the season.
I think we have a pretty mixed set of coverage in the media.
Hull Daily Mail
Generally pretty favourable to us over the last decade or so. James Smailes is pretty relentlessly positive in his coverage, and we benefitted from this recently with umpteen articles from the training camp in Portugal. What I would say is that pretty much all the local journos just print what the clubs tell them verbatim, there's little meaningful independent critique and IMO that's due to lack of willingness to potentially compromise scoops/inside track. A shame really. When they get someone "independent", it turns out to be either Paul Cooke (who to be fair is honest) or Craig Murdock who again tends to focus only on spinning either clubs' signings/training regime positively.
Radio Humberside
Seems to me like both sides have too much previous and the relatively abivalent at best relationship is here to stay. I'm not saying this is all a one way street by the way. Whilst all three pundits (Lloyd, Richardson and Pinkney) have clear Rovers links, and there appears to be no attempt to redress the balance, we do seem slightly weird about controlling our media output. I'd love RH to appoint someone that a) knows about rugby league beyond the HU postcode and b) is FC-friendly to even things up, but that's unlikely. I'm actually a fan of Mike White. He likes to play devil's advocate across different issues, and seems, for example, the only local journo talking about City and raising any sort of challenge. I think he'd be a good impartial RL producer.
Yorkshire Post
Clearly we get a small share of RL voice in the context of Leeds Rhinos, and quite right too. Generally I find their articles well written and balanced, would just like to see a few more of them.
RL Press
Can't say I'm a regular reader, unless I know there's going to be an FC feature, which appears to be practically never. Do we get a fair share of voice for the 4th best supported team in SL (albeit the 11th best one)?
Social Media
The club website is OK, looks quite smart, can be a bit clunky to navigate to some of the good content. In terms of Twitter I'd like to see a bit more personal interaction with fans.
Looking forward to another season of "apoplexy" at the opinions of our media "friends"
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| You are quite paranoid about the media over here generally aren't you?
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| Quote: SirStan "You are quite paranoid about the media over here generally aren't you?'"
Hmm..I've said the HDM are FC friendly, RH are not, YP are balanced. Raging paranoia? OK then. How about reading the post and commenting on specifics? If not re FC or Rovers, consider the likelihood of the HDM or RH awarding Allam "Villain of the Year" as The Independent did. I think we have a high quantity of local articles but little independent analytical quality.
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| I read all your post, I always do, as you more oft than not have something interesting to say. However, my point was more about the need to even have a thread about FC's perceived coverage versus other teams (both RL and other sports). It's also a common theme year on year with you isn't it?
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| Quote: SirStan "You are quite paranoid about the media over here generally aren't you?'"
I'm not
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| I guess it's a question of what you want to see. Living down here you could possibly argue that RL is poorly reported on. But I generally speaking feel I'm up to date on all FC news. It's out there if you wish to see it. I know FA about most other clubs unless it's a big news story. For instance I don't have a clue who our near neighbours have or haven't signed, apart from Bailey as I have no interest. But I imagine I'd soon be up to speed.
So in response to the start of this thread for me as the outsider it's pretty much all good.
But if the club want to attract new or lapsed fans I'd imagine the perceived bias of some supposedly level headed impartial media mouth pieces is not good for the club. There is after all nothing worse than explaining to someone who watched us on radio Humberside that GLs view point is totally at odds with reality at times.
The bottom line is that with social media the world is smaller and I'd like to think that the likes of RH and HDM with their bias will soon be moved aside. The more we have blogs like Wilfs. Fanzines like Up the cream etc then traditional media will either have to up the anti or lose out.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not'"
"People like you never are" to quote Basil Fawlty.
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| Quote: SirStan "I read all your post, I always do, as you more oft than not have something interesting to say. However, my point was more about the need to even have a thread about FC's perceived coverage versus other teams (both RL and other sports). It's also a common theme year on year with you isn't it?'"
I think media coverage is a relevant topic Stanley. Let's agree to disagree. Won't be the first time. Round and round we go, and oh, don't you know, this is the game that we came here for? Love a Kemp, me.
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| Quote: @airlie_bird "I guess it's a question of what you want to see. Living down here you could possibly argue that RL is poorly reported on. But I generally speaking feel I'm up to date on all FC news. It's out there if you wish to see it.'"
Agreed, there's loads of stuff out there. My point is most material is club-generated, whether directly or via HDM. Which is why the YP articles are IMO of most interest.
Quote: @airlie_bird " I know FA about most other clubs unless it's a big news story. For instance I don't have a clue who our near neighbours have or haven't signed, apart from Bailey as I have no interest. But I imagine I'd soon be up to speed.'"
Try social media, @seangleese3 is insightful.
Quote: @airlie_bird "But if the club want to attract new or lapsed fans I'd imagine the perceived bias of some supposedly level headed impartial media mouth pieces is not good for the club. There is after all nothing worse than explaining to someone who watched us on radio Humberside that GLs view point is totally at odds with reality at times. '"
True enough. IMO there should be some form of B&W representation on RH even if outnumbered 3 Great point. So much choice these days, resonance with the reader/listener will be crucial.
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| Quote: SirStan "You are quite paranoid about the media over here generally aren't you?'"
Its not paranoia if they ARE out to get you
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "@seangleese3 is insightful.'"
Not the word I would have used tbh
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| Quote: Chris28 "Not the word I would have used tbh'"
Yet a trillion times better than Cockaine
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Yet a trillion times better than Cockaine'"
You have a real love affair going on with BC don't you? Never miss a chance (even when one doesn't exist) to bring him into the thread. Proper smitten.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I think media coverage is a relevant topic Stanley. Let's agree to disagree. Won't be the first time. Round and round we go, and oh, don't you know, this is the game that we came here for? Love a Kemp, me.'"
Oh I'm not saying it's not relevant MrsB, just that it's one of your own personal barometers. FWIW, I don't think either club does too bad out of local media, if you compare it to other parts of the heartlands. The local media is always pushing a soft agenda, keen to avoid a backlash, that's not a Hull thing, it's across the country. I spent a few years living in the Black country and the way the Express & Star sucked up to Wolves at the time was nausiating, considering thay were a 4th division outfit at the time, run by a bloke who could make Allam appear almost saintly by comparison.
I know you love Kemp, but with a thrill in my head and a pill on my tongue, I will go into the new season full of optimism!
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| Quote: SirStan "I know you love Kemp, but with a thrill in my head and a pill on my tongue, I will go into the new season full of optimism!'"
Bravo Stan!
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