after watching golden balls holdsworth this year, was semour really that bad, does'nt seem to want to get his elbows dirty holdsworth, apart from a very good kicking game, was does holdsworth bring to the team, no pace, doe'snt take the line on, and only pops up when set plays are on, miller i will reserve judgments until next year, still very young but takes the line on sometimes. semour was a mixture of both but cant of been no worse than these two.
as for horne, remember people calling for him to retire last year, past it they said, we all know he was our best half back this year and after he got injured, we failed to make breaks down the middle and our attack suffered.
looking back, did semour get unfair critism as our golden pair half backs miller and holdsworth have failed to better semour,

Horney should have come straight back in for Miller who should have been taken out of the pressure cooker environment that he was forced into on arrival. Horne was in our top 3 tonight playing in the centre then fullback.

Holdsworth has had us all fooled, but is getting shown up now. Its clear to see why he was playing his rugby at a struggling Salford side.

agree mate, only time holdsworth looked ok when playing with horny, shame horny was out for ages,
but holdsworth has been poor since horny was injured,

What I would say against that is that since Horne has been back fit, Holdsworth has been appalling. If it wasn't for Holdsworth's kicking game I don't see a case for him to get a game, and if Miller can improve his a bit in the close season I'd go with him and Horne.

I think he would if we'd had 2 fit centres. Been surprised by horne's pace since he came back from injury as he seems a yard quicker. Would have been our player of the year if he'd not got injured. Just wish he was 5 years younger and showing the form he has this year

Serious ?


Or just a case that by default as he came 15th worst ?

Millers been a highlight this year.

Does anyone think Gentle signed Holdsworth?

Pearson said he would sort the half back problem.
He failed with both Rangi and Scotty.
We needed a leader, and still do.

yes serious. It's not any kind of accolade mind.

pearson was told that miller and holdsworth were the answer to our half back problems

Holdsworth never been the kind of player people are
Now making him out they want to be. Miller is the perfect foil for him in my opinion. 1s a runner, one takes n makes time n organises.
Are people that silly they can't remember holdsworth winning n getting man of the match in all our big games this yr?
Look, lots of the team deserve bagging, holdsworth too but stop now bagging him for not being the kind of player he's never been. If you don't have runners, foils or go forward pack your halves will always look rubbish no matter how good they are.
Also in defence of Millar n holdsworth as a partnership since they've come together as the weeks have gone by we've lost more n more players
Restricting them further crooks lineham Arundel ogre whiting tonight macdonal lynch for a few games n few others.

Miller is rubbish,I've seen nothing from him,that makes me think he'll make it.

But that's exactly my problem with Holdsworth; if he's supposed to provide our organisation, direction, and composure, then where is it? We are completely the opposite most of the time; indecisive, aimless, and panic-ridden.

As I said earlier, if you take his kicking game out of the equation, I just wouldn't see a justification for picking him. His handling skills are nothing special for a halfback, and whilst he's supposed to be the senior player (and as you say, our organiser) over the past few games when the going has got tough he's seemed to be more than happy to leave Miller to it taking the lead. At least Miller is trying to take games by the scruff of the neck, even if he's making a few errors.

since the warrington away game, Holdsworth has done nothing, his partnership with horney upto his injury was excellent, since then, apart from the semi final holdsworth has showed and offered little if not nothing

one more year on his contract then let him go, sooner if someone comes in for him, but cant see that happening

biggest disappointment of the year his signing