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| I would rest the entire 1 st squad Friday clearly they do not want to play.
Its seems to be vogue to blame the coach, board, Kaff and Jimmy, true they are all at fault one way or another. This is player power in action again, and we have already lost two coaches to them and I think Agar and Sharp could well be the next to go.
The players on the field do not want to know, their body language is all wrong and you can see them barely going through the motions. That needs sorting and quick or it will only get worse and it this that will cause the club, coaches and fans the most upset. Good coaches do not allow the players to form there own pressure groups and good management supports the coach. Up to now this has not been happening at FC certain players have the board’s ear and that undermines the coach. John Kear went because of other things (he was on the same money as he had when he was assistant), but when a certain Kiwi hooker stuck the knife in Kear had to go. Sharp was similar with the board constantly taking positions that chipped away at the coaching staff.
Here we are again  You do listen to my rants them  
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Apart from of course, the playoff spot we currently occupy.'"
You seriously think we'll be in the top 8 at the end of the season anyway? Even if, by some miracle, we scrape 8th place, we'll get bummed by Saints in the first round after they've selected us for their easy passage to the next game. |
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| Quote: Ian P "Do you really you think we will get in the play offs on current form ?
We got back purely because Wire got beat by x points, we are not good playing enough'"
Really good post I particulaly like the bit about everyone at every level havingto shoulder some of the blame. The fact is sadly it looks like the coaching staff have lost some of the senior players, and as you say Ian player power kicks in! The trouble is we have appointed the coaches we have appointed because they suit the board in that they will agree with them. We should have gone for the best coach in the world, and if we could not get him, work back from that position. That is what ambition is all about! |
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Thats kind of how it works, teams lose and they drop down the table.
Whether we are going to stay there or not we are currently 8th, therefore it is in our own hands and this season is not a write off. Yet.'"
On present form it is.
Besides it is not a point of maybe we can scrape in (only to be slaughtered after the first play-off match) it is about Agar sending out a message to the players who show no effort, pride or enthusiasm |
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "icon_eek.gif You do listen to my rants them ![]()
I did listen and I was thinking the same think all weekend about the mess we are in.
Getting rid of Agar will solve nothing, he is not the problem and the sooner those in charge see it the better. If they let it continue or throw Agar to the wolf pack then they will deserve all that follows.
Dwindling crowds and dwindling income
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I agree with every word you have said Ian P. At this rate we have written the season off haven't we? Lets get some of these 'stars' off the park and get the young uns in.
I'd support em to the hilt!
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| Quote: Rock God X "You seriously think we'll be in the top 8 at the end of the season anyway? Even if, by some miracle, we scrape 8th place, we'll get bummed by Saints in the first round after they've selected us for their easy passage to the next game.'"
First of all we wouldn't play Saints becase that is not how the system works.
Secondly, that is a worse atitude than the players have. "oh we probably won't be able to do it so lets not even waste our time trying." |
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| Quote: Ian P "I would rest the entire 1 st squad Friday clearly they do not want to play.
Its seems to be vogue to blame the coach, board, Kaff and Jimmy, true they are all at fault one way or another. This is player power in action again, and we have already lost two coaches to them and I think Agar and Sharp could well be the next to go.
The players on the field do not want to know, their body language is all wrong and you can see them barely going through the motions. That needs sorting and quick or it will only get worse and it this that will cause the club, coaches and fans the most upset. Good coaches do not allow the players to form there own pressure groups and good management supports the coach. Up to now this has not been happening at FC certain players have the board’s ear and that undermines the coach. John Kear went because of other things (he was on the same money as he had when he was assistant), but when a certain Kiwi hooker stuck the knife in Kear had to go. Sharp was similar with the board constantly taking positions that chipped away at the coaching staff.
Here we are again 
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| Quote: Ian P "I would rest the entire 1 st squad Friday clearly they do not want to play.
Its seems to be vogue to blame the coach, board, Kaff and Jimmy, true they are all at fault one way or another. This is player power in action again, and we have already lost two coaches to them and I think Agar and Sharp could well be the next to go.
The players on the field do not want to know, their body language is all wrong and you can see them barely going through the motions. That needs sorting and quick or it will only get worse and it this that will cause the club, coaches and fans the most upset. Good coaches do not allow the players to form there own pressure groups and good management supports the coach. Up to now this has not been happening at FC certain players have the board’s ear and that undermines the coach. John Kear went because of other things (he was on the same money as he had when he was assistant), but when a certain Kiwi hooker stuck the knife in Kear had to go. Sharp was similar with the board constantly taking positions that chipped away at the coaching staff.
Here we are again ![]()
I am sure they will act, however my fear is they make the wrong choice, lets put aside Agars ability for now, if the players win this call then there is no saying it will not happen again (even with a top coach) and it will become a spiral of inconsitency, dissapointed fans etc, it has gone on now for years and it has to stop or it will destroy the club.
Agar unfortunatley has inherited a lot of players who have taken part in player power before, he needs a chance to weed it out and build a decent squad who are prepared to be proffesional, let him have his season next year then judge.
I for one am prepared to watch us lose as long as the team put 100% effort in and play with pride, something most of these players are not prepared to do unless they get what they want, well fook em
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