I could not agree more - I did not go to Wrexham so dont usually give an opinion if not at match but could not believe we went with that partnership again. If Rich Agar persists with this I am amost feeling robbed of a season already, Why did we sign Turner if we are not going with him. I hope for changes on Friday. We all love Rich Horne but I agree with most - he should not start.

If people are insistent on moving tansey up to 6/7 then why not move Horne to FB and see how he gets on in a position he has played well in before and also gives him the luxury of coming in when he wants to.

He was distinctly average at FB. Poor ball returns

Unlike the 18 clean breaks the miraculous Tansey made? I like Tansey at f/b, but his ball returns are not particularly impressive. His positioning has been good and he's been good at joining in with the line.

I agree

Although as the poster above says Tansey's ball returns are no better. Thankfully being a fullback isn't just about catching/picking the ball up and acting like a prop for a few seconds as some on here make out.

Seems to me that Horne will be fit top play on Friday so he will still be in the halves without a doubt.

If so then Tansey to 7, Whiting to FB and Hall to centre with Calders on wing for me.

Put him in with Turner and see what happens.........be intresting to hear what our 2 whingers will have to say whilst the match is on...

Tend to think Washy and Horne will get another go.

Funnily enough...someone at work made the same comment about Tanseys ball returns..........

Agar talks a good game,shame he hasnt a clue how to implement it on the pitch

Unfortunately only those with black and white glasses on cant see that RH is a spent force, he has had a serious injury that not only broke his body but his confidence , his speed has all but deserted him and since the first friendly he has to be fair done very little!! he has made zero breaks unless in the clear, his fend has gone and his tackling has becaome woeful at best hence why all teams thus far run at him all the time which also explains why he looks knackered by half time..
Add this to the D illness and I am afraid we have a very expensive passenger now in the team ..
5 games gone and 5 average or below performances.

and it saddens me to say it too but he is no more Hull FC through and through than Paul King was and the big shout was made for Paul as it has to be done soon for RH although he will be with us till the end of next season at least I am afraid

I hate to say it, but he's just not good enough anymore.

His tackling, his handoff, his pace, his support play - were what got him into the GB team afew years ago. Now, looking at those four attributes, he's gone backwards.

I don't accept the excuse that 'he's never been an organiser'. He's played SL at halfback for 10 years, played with and against some great halfbacks and under some experienced coached, and is now a senior member of the team. He should by now be able to shout and execute some plays to his teammates, and be relied upon to do so.

Maybe it's a confidence thing? Maybe he's just incapable of thinking of plays? Maybe it's his illness? Whatever it is, it's down to him and Agar to sort out, and if they can't, he needs to go.

Washy and Horne is over. Rip it up and start again.
Just watch some of the videos from a few seasons ago of Horney, watch the Saints away cup game for example where we narrowly lost and RH was MOM. Look at his frame - much bigger, oozing confidence and causing havoc with his step and handoff. Such a massive shame, but realisticly it's gonna take a turnaround of mammoth proportions to rectify his form now.