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Quote: CHEWIE7 "And if we sign Luke Briscoe back in a couple of years what will people say then?

I'm guessing people hated having Divorty back

And what about Lee Jackson second time around?'"
You'll always get people that like a bit of a moan..... Leave em too it. They can stay at home and pretend they are washing the car while they have Humberside on LOL

You forgot the most famous lad to come back........ He has a little road named after him. And he beat us at Wembley too!!!
It's not about him leaving then coming back, that much has been made abundantly clear: it's about whether he deserves a testimonial for having done so.

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Quote: carl_spackler "And I'll again raise the issue of why it seems to be all Radford's fault that that was the case yet Fitzgibbon was some sort of superhero for doing exactly the same things in exactly the same role, just with a bit more polish and fitness. Neither offered the team enough (or were not able to through reasons out of their control), yet one is lambasted whilst the other is lauded.

I'm not a big fan of Radford, I actually thought we only needed one of him or Dowes and I preferred Dowes of the 2, but the venom with which he is ripped into in comparison to some others I find unfair and distasteful.'"


And i'll say the same thing again, where have i said it was all down to Radford ?

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Quote: frepneyboy "And if we sign Luke Briscoe back in a couple of years what will people say then?

I'm guessing people hated having Divorty back

And what about Lee Jackson second time around?'"


If they come back and do 10 years service they deserve a testimonial.

Before people come back and start moaning i know its from the RFL not HFC.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "And i'll say the same thing again, where have i said it was all down to Radford ?'"


You haven't, but what I'm asking is why is one heavily criticised whilst the other was/is highly praised, when in their time here they offered almost exactly the same to the team? Purely in terms of what they did for Hull FC, what is so different to justify the extreme difference in how they are treated/regarded? One is labelled the epitome of everything wrong with the club for the last 5 years, the other one of the best signings we've made in the last 10.

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Quote: carl_spackler "You haven't, but what I'm asking is why is one heavily criticised whilst the other was/is highly praised, when in their time here they offered almost exactly the same to the team? Purely in terms of what they did for Hull FC, what is so different to justify the extreme difference in how they are treated/regarded? One is labelled the epitome of everything wrong with the club for the last 5 years, the other one of the best signings we've made in the last 10.'"


Too say Fitz and Radford performed the same is crazy imo.

The amount off work in defence Fitz did was brilliant, not only just tacking but smart play in the line and working the man on the ground. He looked like the captain for me aswell as opposed to Radford rallying the boys behing the posts. He didn't offer much in attack for sure though, he isn't in the top 5 signings in the last 10 years.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "Too say Fitz and Radford performed the same is crazy imo.

The amount off work in defence Fitz did was brilliant, not only just tacking but smart play in the line and working the man on the ground. He looked like the captain for me aswell as opposed to Radford rallying the boys behing the posts. He didn't offer much in attack for sure though, he isn't in the top 5 signings in the last 10 years.'"

While I don't particularly agree with most of what you've said, this is true. How anyone can say that Fitz and Radford offered the same to FC is daft, for the exact reasons you've just stated.

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Well, the RFL have awarded him a testimonial based on his 300 appearances in a trophy rich career. I'd say on this basis it's deserved.
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Quote: Superbowl Scott "Too say Fitz and Radford performed the same is crazy imo.

The amount off work in defence Fitz did was brilliant, not only just tacking but smart play in the line and working the man on the ground. He looked like the captain for me aswell as opposed to Radford rallying the boys behing the posts. He didn't offer much in attack for sure though, he isn't in the top 5 signings in the last 10 years.'"


I didn't mean they performed the same in the level of what they did, but that they offered similar roles. I said in a previous post that Fitzgibbon was more polished and fitter, as you say Fitzgibbon was much better on the floor, and his fitness meant he wasn't as easy to get round when fatigue kicked in (although we did still see it). Both he and Radford were slow, predictable plodders with the ball, but had great work ethics in defence, Fitzgibbon was just more accomplished at it. Both still gave everything they could. That's why I don't understand why one is praised with other factors taken into account (ie Agar), but the other criticised and not given the same benefit of the doubt.

As I've said before, the Captain argument is completely irrelevant.

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So are the RFL going to give testimonials to every player who plays 300 games?

Would people be happy if Cooke played another 13 top flight games and was awarded a testimonial?

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Quote: carl_spackler "I didn't mean they performed the same in the level of what they did, but that they offered similar roles. I said in a previous post that Fitzgibbon was more polished and fitter, as you say Fitzgibbon was much better on the floor, and his fitness meant he wasn't as easy to get round when fatigue kicked in (although we did still see it). Both he and Radford were slow, predictable plodders with the ball, but had great work ethics in defence, Fitzgibbon was just more accomplished at it. Both still gave everything they could. That's why I don't understand why one is praised with other factors taken into account (ie Agar), but the other criticised and not given the same benefit of the doubt.

As I've said before, the Captain argument is completely irrelevant.'"


Thats where i see things different to you i think, in defence Radford is a bit of an old school get them on the floor n thats job done. He was a bad one for standing behind the 2 square markers ie offerering the defence line nothing and going for a rest.

I don't buy into the "he gave his all" tbh.

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Quote: CHEWIE7 "Well,,,,,,, We have sold quite a few Radders testimonial shirts, his 'Ladies night' is gonna be a massive success and his race nights and poker night at Napoleons are probably gonna do well too.
The thing about us Hull folk is we respect (well most of us do Chewie where will i find some info on the poker night?

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Quote: Rock God X "Erm, he got paid didn't he? He left the club, gave his best years to someone else, then came back when he was past his best. Fair enough, that's his prerogative, but I certainly don't feel as though I owe him some sort of debt of gratitude.'"

But it was precisely because the players were not getting paid and the club looked like it was going bust that made Bradford's offer a lifeline that couldn't be refused.

I daresay at that moment in time with the betrayal of the owner and the dangerous shambles he'd led Hull into, very few of the players would be feeling loyalty to him. They were probably sorry for the fans but more frightened for themselves.

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I really don't get all this Radford bashing. Weird.

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ditto, unbeliveable. just read 5 or 6 pages of dog turd. i'm red n white through and through, but because we have no game today and because of the type of kid lee is, i'm going with my little B&W cousin.

some people are either plain greedy or stupid.

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Quote: red al "ditto, unbeliveable. just read 5 or 6 pages of dog turd. i'm red n white through and through, but because we have no game today and because of the type of kid lee is, i'm going with my little B&W cousin.

some people are either plain greedy or stupid.'"

as a red and white myself i find all this a bit distasteful your team has under performed in the last few years was it all radfords fault and when he left to go to bradford who wouldnt at that time i wouldnt dream of slagging one our players off on the eve of his testimonial and to the idiot who started this thread instead of hiding behind your computer go today and tell lee to his face how you feel some how i doubt you will

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