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| Quote: Raggytash "I find it incredulous that a bunch of half witted posters are calling the current Man of Steel over-rated!!! And to say he's not good enough for New Zealand - I bet that Heremaia, or Hohaia won't win M.O.S next year, and they're current NZ internationals.
If every other team in every other sport does it, why the hell shouldn't we? If anyone accused Mo Farrar of being Somalian, and not English - you be rightly deemed a racist.'" we have people that want to moan raggy it comes second nature over here. What harm is strengthening the squad the the current MOS. Foran is Aussie born and bred and he will be playing for the kiwis and the Aussie have had that many in the past they cant complain. we need the international game to be competitive to push the game on. I have no issue with Rangi playing if selected.
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| Quote: Rock God X "So where is your cut off point? 15? 16? 18?'" If they come through a countries system like Uate did he would be classed as eligible, I mean Uate even played for Australian schoolboys.
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| Quote: Forever FC "we have people that want to moan raggy it comes second nature over here. What harm is strengthening the squad the the current MOS. Foran is Aussie born and bred and he will be playing for the kiwis and the Aussie have had that many in the past they cant complain. we need the international game to be competitive to push the game on. I have no issue with Rangi playing if selected.'" Kieran Foran was born in NZ.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "If they come through a countries system like Uate did he would be classed as eligible, I mean Uate even played for Australian schoolboys.'"
But then he could still play for Fiji, even though he didn't come through their system. So Uate could take his pick of two nations, whereas Chase should only be allowed one? If he plans to stay here for the rest of his career, and considers himself English, I don't have a problem with it. His recent interview where he said he dreams of playing for NZ does cast doubt on whether that is the case though!
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| Quote: Rock God X "His recent interview where he said he dreams of playing for NZ does cast doubt on whether that is the case though!'" That's another issue I have with the Chase and Heighington selections as choosing to play for England was their second choice.
Its also why Reed should be commended for turning his back on Australia and Queensland to play for England.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "Kieran Foran was born in NZ.'"
How about Jason Nightingale, Brent Webb or all the Tongans/Samoans/Cook Islanders that play for the Kiwi's?
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| Being able to point to being a current England international does seem a good way to get around any potential VISA issues to me.
Just saying like...
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "Kieran Foran was born in NZ.'" Sorry HF you are right about that. I have been following a debate on the Manly site where they are cheesed off with him as he came through the Aussie system and played Aussie Schoolboys and they feel he should of repaid Austrailia for his upbringing.
And I suppose the worst example of all has been Tonie Carroll. (born in New Zealand) educated in Aus played Aus schoolboys and state of origin . then played for New Zealand in the 2000 world cup (scoring in the final against Aus).Then going on to represent Aus himself 7 times.
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| Quote: Raggytash "How about Jason Nightingale, Brent Webb or all the Tongans/Samoans/Cook Islanders that play for the Kiwi's?'"
It's a bit more complex with them as a lot of those Islands are governed by NZ and belong to them. They also never had national sides untill not so long ago.
I'm happy for players who were brought up in the youth system of that country to be eligible to play for either their country of birth or their adopted country. When a player signs their first professional contract they will then have to pick their alligence, and stick with it, for rep football and transfers/over seas quotas.
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