Not the time an place of today's penalties though, that's my point.

How the players on the field giving way penalties is Agar's fault is beyond me.

The board have to make this call. They already have, in part, by giving Agar a 2 year extension to the end of 2012. They believe Agar is the coach to take us to silverware. It will be interesting to see how the season pans out, and if we do as badly as many on here fear (which in part is knee-jerkery to the fact we're now 9-5 down in derbies to Rovers, and part frustration that a new season doesn't seem to have brought a huge change in the basics) where the tipping point is, and indeed whether there is one. It's quite possible we'll be 1 from 5 IMO with Leeds, Huddersfield and Wigan in our next 4 games. I doubt whether that would be a call to arms given the board's continued support for Agar. The interesting factor here that's been alluded to by a couple of posters already is that there is a coach with a track record who's available, and this might be a factor in the decision.

Rather have Noble but he's not a yes man the board won't like that

Maybe they will have to realise that a successful club has to have a succesful team on the pitch as the cash cow is starting to lose patience. Bring in Nobby until October and then re think. Lets face it half the team is going at the end of the year and that can only mean starting from scratch again next season.

Agar isn't a yes man either, he's a grunt man.

Whatever people say about Agar he's divided opinion from the day he was appointed because some felt there weren't sufficient grounds for giving him the job and others felt he deserved his chance. Noble has a track record and standing within the game that means we could all unite behind him from day one. I'm pretty sure a while back he was quoted as saying he'd love to coach one of the Hull clubs aswell

I think it's a bit of an insult to someone of Noble's standing to ask him to come in until the end of the season while we re-assess.

In the hyopthetical scenario the board let Agar go, however, can't see Noble coming for just a year. So you're then into the "Why don't we get the next Maguire instead?" debate.

IF we are going to make a coaching change it needs to happen before the recruitment for next season is finalised. The board were very quick to give Agar the contract extension (Easter time?) so if things are going badly they should be just as quick to make a decision the other way. He has had long enough and has built "His Team" so should be held responsible.

Give him 3 years then. I am just not entirely sure Nobby wants long term contract. At least he will be able to attract new players when this squad breaks up in September.

I believe that after today the board must re-consider the position of Ricahrd Agar [& Richard Agar must also re-consider his position. This is not a knee-jerk re-action to the result today. I have had this opinion for a consider time. I do not believe that the club can allow 6-10 matches to go by, before 'stepping in'. I believe positive action should be taken now.
I am aware that the players should shoulder some responsibility but in the end the coach is the one who in my view is in charge of the team.

What do you think Robbo? As it stands where do you think we'll be by the end of the Easter programme?

IMO:
Leeds L
Hudds L
Crusaders W
Wigan L
Wakefield W
Harlequins W
Cas Draw
Bulls L
Catalans W
Rovers L
Warrington L

That would be 4 from 12 and the tipping point for most IMO.

Ideally it would happen like that but I'd still rather go with Noble coaching Agar/Rule's signings next year than letting Agar stay unless we undergo a radical transformation in the ten games.

The club won't get rid of Agar yet for a while unfornately

I think your being generous



Even with those 4 wins it would be time to call it a day IMO the chances of making the playoffs after a start like that would be slim to none which would be a massive failure on Agars part and would warrant a change in coaching regime. No excuses are going to cut it anymore as even the most ardant Hull fan is losing patience so surely the board would have to make a change after a start like that.

Can`t see us beating Crusaders.

Me neither tbh, but didn't want to be accused of leading the witness.

I hear what a lot on here are saying and don't like all this Agar out stuff but enough has to be enough. Other clubs have improved but from what I have seen so far this season we havn't. I agree that Agar doesn't miss tackles, or drop balls but he does organise our left sided defence and he does decide our tactics and pick the team AND the bench, for me as I said on another thread after that performance the clock has to be ticking on Mr. A.

Neither can i. There pivot player (1,6,7,9) were awesome today, showed real classy plays.

Would "Noble In" be a more positive way of looking at it?

"so far this season"?friendlies that mean nothing but run outs and 1 SL game in ?
Another fc "fan"embaressingly calling for the coach to go,lol.

perhaps we should start on Friday with a chorus of Goodbye Mr A

run along dear when we want your opinion we will ask flower

But you can come on our board and question our replies as though we're not allowed there either? Why so hostile?

what just like you was all hostile to me?whats good for one..............

Of course Agar doesn't miss tackles or give away penalties but he is responsible for recruitment, tactics, interchanges etc all of which he has proved to be inadequate at.

I can't be bothered at the mo to work out his win/loss record but I'm pretty sure it's about a 40% win record which is just not good enough.

How long the board is prepared to give him is anyone's guess though. If they wait until Easter the season is almost half over.