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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "I actually think the players were well within their right to resent and turn on Kear the way he behaved after we won the CC.
Peter Sharp was actually really well liked by the players who acted like proffesionals.
Think Agar is getting undermined by certain players because they know he isnt up to the job.'"
what did kear do after we won the cc?
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| Quote: Ded "Finally someone speaking sense!
me too, I'd rather watch 17 players who wanted to be there lose to Salford than our super dooper first team squad lose to Salford
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| They will not use the u21 squad of course, but there are some members of the 1st team squad that to be frank need to some where else.
I guess Rich Agar knows who they are and I dare many on here do, he is just not going to be allowed to drop them. Its down to cost as the u21 players would come at a cost to play them, playing lazy 1st teamers does not.
I have one or two names in mind and I have resisted the temptation to name some as I am not in the business of slagging them off on here.
Its too public
But Thorman is not one, I believe he is trying its the buggers that are not bothering to work too hard.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "what did kear do after we won the cc?'"
Fell backwards over the advertising boards, IIRC.
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| Quote: Ian P "They will not use the u21 squad of course, but there are some members of the 1st team squad that to be frank need to some where else.
I guess Rich Agar knows who they are and I dare many on here do, he is just not going to be allowed to drop them. Its down to cost as the u21 players would come at a cost to play them, playing lazy 1st teamers does not.
I have one or two names in mind and I have resisted the temptation to name some as I am not in the business of slagging them off on here.
Its too public
good post ian
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| Quote: Rock God X "Fell backwards over the advertising boards, IIRC.'"
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| Quote: Rock God X "It's not an either/or scenario for me. Agar needs to go, as do a good number of the underperforming players.'"
I agree with that.
Big [size 'If'[/size player power is and has been a such problem at the club, then why on this earth, did the board appoint Agar in the first place?
Surely the board did not expect that an inexperienced R Agar, was the man to sort out that problem.
I think this 'player power' card, has been way over played.
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| Quote: Standee "I tend to avoid debate with people that don't have a basic grasp of english, even more so people who use "buzz words" they have heard on telly what not knowing what they mean.
Hall going to Widnes demonstrates Agar's lack of ability, and I wouldn't call Fitzgibbon on a year "prudent".'" What rugby coaching experience do you have that would make your opinion on agar plausable? Don't defend yourself by telling us it is your opinion as you are too dismissive of other peoples. You are condescending and rude. Common decency and manners cost nothing. Your parents must be proud!
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| Quote: PAUL M "As Ian said in his first post there is blame to all parties in this. Sacking Agar won't change anything other than the players will think they have the power again and we will be left with Sharp.
Maybe it needs a coach to stand his ground and get shut of some players, maybe Agar is going to do this. The trouble is if he gets rid of players and brings in some good ones and still fails then we will know it's him.
Sacking the coach is the easy option and it has not worked so well for us in recent season has it.'"
I remember our neighbours sacking coach after coach, until they got one that can do the job (spit)
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| Quote: Standee "I love all this "if the board go" balls, they are not the sole shareholders! '"
Who owns shares in FC that isn't on the board?
John Weatherill 211,034 shares 26%
Pauline Weatherill 115,319 shares 14%
Jack Coupe 107,662 shares 13%
David Fulton 141,352 17%
Kath Hetherington 245,033 shares 30%
They are all directors, as well as Rule, Sutton and Flatman.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Fell backwards over the advertising boards, IIRC.'"
Forgot about that
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| Quote: Isaiah "I agree with that.
Big [size'If'[/size player power is and has been a such problem at the club, then why on this earth, did the board appoint Agar in the first place?
Surely the board did not expect that an inexperienced R Agar, was the man to sort out that problem.
I think this 'player power' card, has been way over played.'"
And if player power is undermining the coach and the club, what the hell is our chief exec doing about it?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Who owns shares in FC that isn't on the board?
John Weatherill 211,034 shares 26%
Pauline Weatherill 115,319 shares 14%
Jack Coupe 107,662 shares 13%
David Fulton 141,352 17%
Kath Hetherington 245,033 shares 30%
They are all directors, as well as Rule, Sutton and Flatman.'"
Does anyone know who coupe and fulton are?
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663_1379281559.jpg [b:1g6itio7][color=#000000:1g6itio7]Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.; [/color:1g6itio7][/b:1g6itio7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_663.jpg |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "what did kear do after we won the cc?'"
Not for upsetting the players ...........................
They used a run of poor results to get rid of Mr Kear, sure it was well rumoured he had "lost the dressing room". JK told the squad the day before he was sacked "that things would be btter soon and they would go on a long run of wins " ....................... he got that right.
JK was paid the same rate he had when he was bombers No2 and even after winning the Challenge cup his pay was not increased. He started to do what he wanted, stopped doing non coaching appearances etc. That upset the powers that be and they got rid of him and he has a gagging order on his leaving handshake as well .
Players who where around at that time will know this to be correct.
s for Rich Agar not being experienced , he has been assistant coach funder two coaches and did lead the etam during that famed run in 2006.
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