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| My problem with Chase is that he's so inconsistent...
What am I saying? He'd fit right in at FC!
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "It's the same old same old, 1 out rugby, and then when we decide to go wide, it's all side ways and slow, no forward motion, no fluidity. Maybe we do need a half back like chase, someone who doesn't do what the coach tells them to! The high bombs , the lack of running at the line, dummy runners etc, got to be how we are been coached to play! I think that's where radfords comments about leeds structures are coming from, putting the blame on the players, basically saying, just because I've not got a clue, these players are good enough to sort it out on match day! Like leeds do! He thought we could do it the Bradford way, and he's no plan b! Personally think if we offer darryl Powell the chance to coach us, he wouldn't be able to resist! He's been a coach for a number of years now, done is apprenticeship in the lower division, and is showing what an outstanding coach he is'"
Radford's point about Leeds was that their players turn up every week with 100% enthusiasm and prepared to play at the very best level they can for most of the time. Hard to disagree with. Whether that's down to the coach, the players, or a combination of both is not entirely clear but since Brian Mac won nothing at London I'd suggest the quality and approach of the players would provide the majority of the impetus.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Radford's point about Leeds was that their players turn up every week with 100% enthusiasm and prepared to play at the very best level they can for most of the time. Hard to disagree with. Whether that's down to the coach, the players, or a combination of both is not entirely clear but since Brian Mac won nothing at London I'd suggest the quality and approach of the players would provide the majority of the impetus.'"
Leeds have been like that for a long time so I'd say it was a player thing more than anything else. Players coming into the club or through the youth ranks will see the professional nature of the first team squad, buy into it, and then pass it onto the next set of players. I'm sure Brian Mac and other coaches play their part in maintaining that professional nature too of course.
Radders using Leeds as an example is hopefully a sign of what he is trying to achieve with our squad.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Radford's point about Leeds was that their players turn up every week with 100% enthusiasm and prepared to play at the very best level they can for most of the time. Hard to disagree with. Whether that's down to the coach, the players, or a combination of both is not entirely clear but since Brian Mac won nothing at London I'd suggest the quality and approach of the players would provide the majority of the impetus.'"
So why can't our experienced senior players such as Ellis, Houghton, Horne, Yeaman and Whiting provide similar impetus?
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| Quote: Diogenes "So why can't our experienced senior players such as Ellis, Houghton, Horne, Yeaman and Whiting provide similar impetus?'"
If anyone can actually answer this can they also provide me with some lottery numbers for tonight please?
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| Quote: Doc Brown "Quote: Doc Brown "So why can't our experienced senior players such as Ellis, Houghton, Horne, Yeaman and Whiting provide similar impetus?'"
If anyone can actually answer this can they also provide me with some lottery numbers for tonight please?
Well if the problem is the players maybe its time to clear them out - without fear, favour or sentiment.
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| There is a major culture at leeds from academy teams up based around being the best you can at all times in everything you do. The structures there support and develop the culture. wigan is similar but I don't think we have the financial clout to fully emulate it, however there is certainly a level way above what we are currently achieving. There are still significant limitations with our squad who are nowhere near those of the top clubs but with the right approach from everyone we would be much better than we are now.
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| Quote: Diogenes "So why can't our experienced senior players such as Ellis, Houghton, Horne, Yeaman and Whiting provide similar impetus?'"
The players you list all have their talents (Horne and Yeaman clearly in the twilight of their offerings) but none of them have the ability to impose and affect the direction of a game like Sinfield, Burrow, McGuire, Briers, Walsh, Brough, O'Loughlin etc. It's an on-field general we need of that I have no doubt
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| Miller was a marked man on Sunday, every time we tried to open up space for him the Wakefield defence rushed in and around him. Feel like he is being made a bit of a scapegoat.
Rankin has bagged some tries but was equally ineffective this time around.
Still think we need to pursue this partnership though
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| I don't see the point in changing the pairing for a few games until Horne inevitably gets injured again and we're back to square one with this partnership.
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| Quote: *1865* "I don't see the point in changing the pairing for a few games until Horne inevitably gets injured again and we're back to square one with this partnership.'"
Me neither but Horne will be in for Milky.
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| Quote: WIZEB "Me neither but Horne will be in for Milky.'"
Without a doubt.
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| Lets be honest Horne can't do any worse than what Miller did on Sunday so would make sense bringing him back in
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| Quote: wudmansir "Lets be honest Horne can't do any worse than what Miller did on Sunday so would make sense bringing him back in'"
How many will it restrict us getting beat by?
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| Quote: wudmansir "Lets be honest Horne can't do any worse than what Miller did on Sunday so would make sense bringing him back in'" He already has been worse, did you not go to the Widnes game?
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