Fair enough.

But 6th best is not good enough, although it probably reflects the standard of play and creativitity at the moment.

No we are not we are 6th in the table at present, they are not the same thing. If we are the 6th best team then how come Warrington who are below us recently beat us at home? We are a poor team despite our current position, surely you can see that. We all love this club and the fact that we are arguing amongst ourselves shows the passion we all have for it, but things need to change and burying your head in the sand will not help one bit.

Absolutely spot on, why do people constantley think there awesome fans for supporting such crap. I regular watche dus get dicked in 99 and even watched us play in the lower divisions for a few seasons. Going since 94 I've expiernced more bad then I have good. The difference now is that we have the ability to be one of the top sides in the country, yet we just seem happy to have a board who take our money in exchange for excuses. When our passion is matched on the field and in the board room I may start to reconsider my decision.

Anyone who dare to say to me the any kind of wether bull can go and themselves considering half of them probably didn't care when they really was needed.

Hi James.

Dunno. Maybe the same reason some seem to feel superior because they don't want to?

Think everyone needs to calm down a bit on this issue TBH. Just about everyone on here wants us to do well, is frustrated at the way things are going, and has different ideas about how fans can best try and do something about it.

Knocking lumps out of each other isn't really achieving anything.

Don't see anyone thinking there more superior in that aspect ?

If people want to keep going to games fine by me but don't question my loyalty/passion over this. ( not a direct comment at you Kosh)

I think that calling these people 'mugs' and saying that they're 'settling for mediocrity' probably qualifies, don't you?


I have some sympathy with both points of view TBH.

Who said that

I think most people can see that we need a top coach, good scrum half, good centre and tackle busting prop.

I also think that JR probably knows this - but his primary remit from the board would be to safe guard our investment and to make a profit. If you can do this by playing good rugby within a set budget all well and good.

The off field development of the club has been very good and will hopefully benefit the club in years to come.

We are now at a crossroad where we are playing poor rugby and crowds will start to fall - resulting in the the boards primary objective not being met. - I think that this will result in one of two things a) cut and run and sell to the highest bidder (someone has to have deep pockets because RL clubs dont usually run at a profit) or b) try to change things on the park and hope revenue increases.

there is a third option but my mind wont go there - the board sit tight watch revenues decline and cut the operating/playing budget .

Solution god knows I just pray

I will be renewing my pass as soon as the new season's become available.

The fact is it is a personal choice thing, no rights or wrongs.

I love rugby and support FC so I will carry on , the only other options are if people love rugby but they are discontent with the way things are at FC they have the option to go and watch KR, (personally a choice not for me).

Wash your mouth out!



If Rovers were playing in my back garden I'd draw the curtains

Why I mentioned is was because a neighbour opposite got an FC car sticker straight after Cardiff, he has now replaced it with a KR one



T@sser will not be invited to our bbqs

I'd have let his tyres down and put a brick through the back window



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Will be 4 in this house not renewing its not worth it crap rugby rubbish coaching staff average players Bord dont give a toss it could be one of the biggest best clubs in the land and the Bord and coaching staff are absolute rubbish how long have we needed a world class number 7 the club is a big joke

As things stand I would not renew my pass.

I've been a passholder for most of the past 30 years with only a few years break due to work commitments. The problem is everything is being done on the cheap and there is no entertainment value from the rubbish being served up on the pitch. I'm getting to the stage where although I've got a pass for this season I can't be bothered to make the 130 mile round trip to watch 5 drives, a poor kick and baffling interchanges. I mean, it's only six miles to Headingley for me and I couldn't justify spending the ticket money to myself as I knew we'd get hammered.

Thing must change quickly. Taxi for Agar, Sharp and Thorman please.

what a glutten

Good post. Like it or not the board have to see the club as a business, and run it like one, we are in debt and even though we are turning over a lot of money we are not really in a position to be throwing big money at players. Off field we are probably the best side in Superleague and over the next few years we should see the benefits. That said there is a fine line, and money does need to be spent to strengthen the side, because if we don't improve on the field the reality is that the crowds will drop and the good work will be set back.

I keep getting home following my post-match beers praying that ive lost my pass out of my pocket but sadly i never have.

It's about opinion isn't it? No one is right or wrong.

We're all passionate about the club and that's why our frustrations are boiling over at the minute. We all want the same thing.

I continue to go like I did last night and will do so for the rest of the season and probably until I'm unable to get there. I've been watching the team for 30yrs and it's just become the norm. I can why some of you think I'm a "mug" or an "idiot" for throwing my money away but that's my choice and as sad as I am I can't stand the fact of not been at a game supporting the team even during these times. Saying all that I also can see why some people no longer want to spend their hard earned cash on watching Hull at the minute and I certainly don't think I'm a bigger fan than them. It's about personal choice.

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This is such a fukwit argument. Do you not understand how the salary cap works and that we've been operating at it's maximum for years now?