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| Quote ="PAUL M"We've never been at full cap this year, thought that would have been obvious?'"
Some like to argue different ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="PAUL M"We've never been at full cap this year, thought that would have been obvious?'"
Droolers thinks that 'spending at or near cap' means having zero pounds left at all times regardless of circumstances.
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| From what i gather. As Gleeson wasn't sacked from Wigan, he got the rest of his contract paid off by Wigan until the end of the season.
So we've signed him on £40,000 until the end of the season then matching his Wigan contract of £120,000 for next season.
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| Quote ="Offy"From what i gather. As Gleeson wasn't sacked from Wigan, he got the rest of his contract paid off by Wigan until the end of the season.
So we've signed him on £40,000 until the end of the season then matching his Wigan contract of £120,000 for next season.'"
We wont be paying that, £70k tops, the NRL stuff was smoke and mirrors, his other option was franchiseless Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Standee"We wont be paying that, £70k tops, the NRL stuff was smoke and mirrors, his other option was franchiseless Wakefield.'"
Agree, he would not be our highest paid player, would he?
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| Before the signing of Gleeson we was way off the cap limit around 200k to spend
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Agree, he would not be our highest paid player, would he?'"
Hmmm, this is Hull FC we are talking about, so who knows.
I just hope there aren't any other "conditions" attached, like Long getting another year etc. But then that is just a by-product of how sceptical I am of Hull FC in recent times.
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| Quote ="Standee"We wont be paying that, £70k tops, the NRL stuff was smoke and mirrors, his other option was franchiseless Wakefield.'"
It wasn't. Gleeson had four offers, two from Superleague and two from the NRL.
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| Quote ="Citizen Smith Rules"Before the signing of Gleeson we was way off the cap limit around 200k to spend'"
whatever
not one single person posting on RLFans knows our exact cap position, nor does one single person know exactly what offers Gleeson did or didn't have.
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| Quote ="Standee"We wont be paying that, £70k tops, the NRL stuff was smoke and mirrors, his other option was franchiseless Wakefield.'"
I don't see any way he'll be playing for us next season for £70k. £70k is an average salary for a SL player. Internationals will be on £100k+ and he could have got that at plenty of clubs for next season
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don't see any way he'll be playing for us next season for £70k. £70k is an average salary for a SL player. Internationals will be on £100k+ and he could have got that at plenty of clubs for next season'"
Internationals released by the top clubs, with previous issues?
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| Quote ="Standee"Internationals released by the top clubs, with previous issues?'"
I'm sure widnes would have been desperate for him
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure widnes would have been desperate for him'"
Maybe it's an affordability issue then?
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| Quote ="Standee"Maybe it's an affordability issue then?'"
I just think we'll be paying the going rate for him. He could have got it elsewhere so there's no reason to think he'll be travelling right across the country 3 or 4 times a week for less than he could have got on his doorstep
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I just think we'll be paying the going rate for him. He could have got it elsewhere so there's no reason to think he'll be travelling right across the country 3 or 4 times a week for less than he could have got on his doorstep'"
Well, he's a former international, 30 years old, and has previous, so I'd hope the deal is in FC's favour.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It wasn't. Gleeson had four offers, two from Superleague and two from the NRL.'"
Hull, Wakey, Titans and Roosters I heard.
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| Quote ="Citizen Smith Rules"Before the signing of Gleeson we was way off the cap limit around 200k to spend'"
I guess you've got no more evidence of that than Droolers?
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| Quote ="Standee"Well, he's a former international, 30 years old, and has previous, so I'd hope the deal is in FC's favour.'"
I'm sure you'll be confident of that with your knowledge of our board
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| Are win bonuses counted in the cap?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Are win bonuses counted in the cap?'"
AFAIK yes, any renumeration counts.
So, maybe we haven't trouble the Challenge Cup in recent years as we'd break the cap if we won it?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hull, Wakey, Titans and Roosters I heard.'"
I heard Titans - they are after 2 new centres - just got Idris, and Gleeson going would have meant saving money as Champion will cost them a lot
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Are win bonuses counted in the cap?'"
Yes, that's why we never get anywhere near it
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| Quote ="Standee"AFAIK yes, any renumeration counts.
So, maybe we haven't trouble the Challenge Cup in recent years as we'd break the cap if we won it?'"
Win bonuses are included but any prize money the club wins from finishing position SL or Challenge cup, can be shared out to the players and this doesn't count on the cap
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| Quote ="Stanley Unwin"Win bonuses are included but any prize money the club wins from finishing position SL or Challenge cup, can be shared out to the players and this doesn't count on the cap'"
You certain of that?
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| Quote ="Standee"You certain of that?'"
5.7 The following items may be excluded in the calculation of the Salary Cap Value of a
Player:
Prize Money
5.7.1 the Gross value of any of the following payments that may Accrue to the
Player during the Salary Cap Year:
(a) any share of the official prize money paid by the RFL to the Club as a
result of the Club’s performance in the Super League competition
(provided that full details of such prize money bonuses are submitted
to the RSCM at the time that the Player’s playing contract is
submitted);
(b) any share of the official prize money paid by the RFL to the Club as a
result of the Club’s performance in the Challenge Cup competition
(provided that full details of such prize money bonuses are submitted
to the RSCM at the time that the Player’s playing contract is
submitted); and/or
(c) any share of the official prize money paid by the RFL to the Club as a
result of the Club’s performance in the World Club Challenge
competition (provided that full details of such prize money bonuses
are submitted to the RSCM as soon as reasonably practicable and in
any event no later than seven days prior to the World Club Challenge
competition).
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