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| Quote ="Rock God X"A good coach shouldn't have to be down there shouting at players. He should do adequate work prior to the game to ensure that such an approach isn't necessary.
I find it a little worrying that he's obviously going to be our coach next season. His game plan, interchange policy, attacking and defensive patterns are all so inept that I wonder whether a (much needed) change in playing personnel will make sufficient difference.
Or will we have to write next year off as well?'"
My concerns exactly.
Looks like we'll have the opportunity to find out the hard way. 
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| Sharp did the chat to the fans in the bar last night and said it was a mixed bag. He thought in the first half we played some good stuff and threw the ball about better than we have all season. Still too many mistakes and it was the tries either side of half time and the bounce of the ball from the poor bomb that made the difference. When asked , by the official with the mike ,where do we go from here he started to praise Thorman saying what bottle he showed and how some of the rest of the players should be looking at themselves and taking a leaf out of his book. No one mentioned Thorman but he felt the need to defend him. He also said that there were a lot of sore and cut knees cos the pitch was shorn of grass and being reseeded and told us how he had to put up with that at Huddersfield as well!
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Very insightful - not. Miserable. Clueless. No plan. No hope.
As long as we have Agar Sharp and the current coaching team you could bring in the full Australian test team and they too would be stood under the posts looking away from each other not talking and petulantly throwing water bottles on the floor. These players clearly do not want to/are not enjoying playing under this regime. The coaches seem clueless in man management as well as tactics.
Someone said to me that hearing the comments praising Agar from the new signings he must be a hypnotist - clearly it only works on the phone.
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| Quote Another season written off then due to going for a coach on the cheap. Dont we deserve better?'"
It's not just this season though Dave....it wil more than likely be same next year! 
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| I'm not a fan of sacking coaches but our entire gameplan seems to be hoping somebody comes up with an individual effort rather than making something happen as a team. Agar has had plenty of time to implement some structure to our play but its just not happening. It needs a whole new coaching set up and getting rid of some the deadwood at the club.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'm not a fan of sacking coaches but our entire gameplan seems to be hoping somebody comes up with an individual effort rather than making something happen as a team. Agar has had plenty of time to implement some structure to our play but its just not happening. It needs a whole new coaching set up and getting rid of some the deadwood at the club.'"
that will be drifting away at the end of the season
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| Quote ="wolfie"that will be drifting away at the end of the season'"
Does that include agar?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'm not a fan of sacking coaches but our entire gameplan seems to be hoping somebody comes up with an individual effort rather than making something happen as a team. Agar has had plenty of time to implement some structure to our play but its just not happening. It needs a whole new coaching set up and getting rid of some the deadwood at the club.'"
And the no $hit sherlock award for this season goes to.............we was all saying this at the start of the season and our early matches masked over the problems....they are both inept,simple as...the board are now bringing the players in...will they give us the coach to get the best out of them.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And the no $hit sherlock award for this season goes to.............we was all saying this at the start of the season and our early matches masked over the problems....they are both inept,simple as...the board are now bringing the players in...will they give us the coach to get the best out of them.'"
Just been a quote on Sky by Phil Clark where he said that Terry Matterson "gets value for money from his players and squeezes every last drop of skill and energy out of them each game". Oh how I wish we could say he same about our coaching staff.
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| Quote ="Robbo4" our entire gameplan seems to be hoping somebody comes up with an individual effort rather than making something happen as a team.'"
The chances of this happening being significantly reduced with Manu out injured. Last night Thorman looked the most likely TBH 
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And the no $hit sherlock award for this season goes to.............we was all saying this at the start of the season and our early matches masked over the problems....they are both inept,simple as...the board are now bringing the players in...will they give us the coach to get the best out of them.'"
You've been the same thing repeatedly for the last few months.....Sherlock 
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The chances of this happening being significantly reduced with Manu out injured. Last night Thorman looked the most likely TBH icon_sad.gif'"
Which shows bad it is  I was hoping with Manu out it may have forced a change but alas no such luck.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"You've been the same thing repeatedly for the last few months.....Sherlock
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Said it from the off...he shouldnt have been given the job...totally out of his depth..........Watson.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Said it from the off...he shouldnt have been given the job...totally out of his depth..........Watson.'"
As have I, so in that case no more threads about Agar please mods its all been said before.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"As have I, so in that case no more threads about Agar please mods its all been said before.'"
Robbo in modabee mode.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Robbo in modabee mode.'"
And the no $hit sherlock award for this season goes to...... 
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| Quote ="Robbo4"And the no $hit sherlock award for this season goes to......
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Up yours............ 
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'd vote for you.
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Just proves you know fook all.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"You know it makes sense Mrs B
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| Quote ="airliebird58"That comment is spot on, next year will be Agars team and he will live or die by it. Simple as.'"
No it wont. It will be Kaths, for Agar to play with.
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| I usually believe that coaches should be allowed the full length of there contract to prove themselves, but its so plain to see that as a SL coach Agar is clueless, personally I dont we have thequad to be a top 6 team, he is working with a weak squad I dont think thats even debatable, but the sickening thing is just how predictable we are with the ball, you can almost predict every time who will be taking the ball up and what they are goin to do with it, I got so bored yesterday I started to do this, we have virtually no second phase, no structure in attack other then the one line, you just had to look at the way Saints set up and the options that Long was given at halfback, his runners and even something so simple as Pryce standing a bit deeper, Cas are not the most talented squad in the league score points becuase they use the run around to good effect, we just play one man rugby and dont even do that right.
I hate to say it as im usually really against this type of thing and it dosnt help the team in the short term and I usually cringe when it happens, but maybe the fans need to start putting even more pressure on him and the board, becuase its clear to see after been so rash with a successful coach like Kear the board for some reason have no intention of replacing Agar regardless of how poor the performances are, and even if they did we know who it would be.
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| Richard Agar clearly does not tell the players to go out there and have no second phase , nor does he tell them to take wrong options or make silly errors
It takes a degree of player initiatve , and motivation to do well for the team and most importantly , quality.
Executed properly, the way we are playing can be highly effective no matter how "boring " it may be, but when we should be playing error free rugby with good kicks and forcing errors , the lads on the feild are sloppy.
It started at the back end of the Kear regime , then during the sharp era and now with Agar , when will people realise that the same problem cannot be down to so called "negative" tactics and realise that the current squad with the players missing that are , isn't good enough to be classed as top 4.
So at risk of becoming more unpopular than he is at the moment, lay off the guy .
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| Agar is going nowhere.
He is building his team for next year - you better get used to the idea!!!
I take it you don't like the inclusion of Fitzgibbon, Long and Tansey for next year then???
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| Quote ="fat ash"Richard Agar clearly does not tell the players to go out there and have no second phase , nor does he tell them to take wrong options or make silly errors
It takes a degree of player initiatve , and motivation to do well for the team and most importantly , quality.
Executed properly, the way we are playing can be highly effective no matter how "boring " it may be, but when we should be playing error free rugby with good kicks and forcing errors , the lads on the feild are sloppy.
It started at the back end of the Kear regime , then during the sharp era and now with Agar , when will people realise that the same problem cannot be down to so called "negative" tactics and realise that the current squad with the players missing that are , isn't good enough to be classed as top 4.
So at risk of becoming more unpopular than he is at the moment, lay off the guy .'"
Some good points, but how does any of this explain his utter inability to operate his bench?
One of the most basic skills of any coach, and Agar doesn't have it. At all.
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