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| Quote: Robbo4 "I guess we will see by the end of next season if Morgan has waved his magic wand and unleashed the untapped potential to turn Hall into a top quality Centre. I'll go out on a limb right now and say I highly doubt it.'"
That's pretty much how I see it.
That said the first time he makes a break in the derby or sets up a try he will be hailed a success but I reckon there will be numerous other games where his world caved in on the back of a silly mistake or he got ran round, through and over by an opposition centre.
Some very good and some very bad sums up Halls career so far.
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| Said It on here before and G<Geko had a go at me for it, yet I'm still to be proved wrong. Half decent NL1 player end of.
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| Quote: knocker norton "That's pretty much how I see it.
That said the first time he makes a break in the derby or sets up a try he will be hailed a success but I reckon there will be numerous other games where his world caved in on the back of a silly mistake or he got ran round, through and over by an opposition centre.
Some very good and some very bad sums up Halls career so far.'"
The thing is.. players performing against their previous clubs is a matter of course in sport but doesn't make the said player particularly special.
ie. Paul Co**e - vs us for Rovers & Wakey and even Tommy Lee had a good game against us when Crusaders beat us early on!!
I fully expect Craig Hall to score against us next year but that won't make me feel any different about it being the right decision to release him. I would also expect us to pepper him with every high ball match up a running centre against him!!
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| Quote: Robbo4 "I guess we will see by the end of next season if Morgan has waved his magic wand and unleashed the untapped potential to turn Hall into a top quality Centre. I'll go out on a limb right now and say I highly doubt it.'"
I don't think its a case of waving a magic wand, most people on here would accept hall's a confidence player, the noises morgan is making regarding him is all about building his confidence, he's mentioned working on his defence but talking up his attacking capabilities as well as not messing him about using him as a utility player but settling him down into his preferred position of centre. Time will tell if it works, but you don't build a players confidence by hauling him off after a mistake or leaving him on the bench unused for 80 minutes, or actually criticising him in your after match press conference, all things agar has done in the past.
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "The thing is.. players performing against their previous clubs is a matter of course in sport but doesn't make the said player particularly special.
ie. Paul Co**e - vs us for Rovers & Wakey and even Tommy Lee had a good game against us when Crusaders beat us early on!!
I fully expect Craig Hall to score against us next year but that won't make me feel any different about it being the right decision to release him. I would also expect us to pepper him with every high ball match up a running centre against him!!'"
I doubt he will get in unless we have an injury.
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| Quote: rover49 "I doubt he will get in unless we have an injury.'"
Does make you wonder why you signed him purely because he used to play for us, surely not?
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| Quote: sandy "Time will tell if it works, but you don't build a players confidence by hauling him off after a mistake or leaving him on the bench unused for 80 minutes, or actually criticising him in your after match press conference, all things agar has done in the past.'"
Has he?
I'm a big fan of Hall but I don't recognise that treatment of him at all. He's been hard done to more by circumstances than any particular coaching failures IMO.
I expect him to do better at Rovers than at Hull, but not because Morgan is some kind of super-coach. You have a more structured defence which will help him a great deal, and if he is actually played in his preferred position that will also help.
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| Quote: rover49 "I doubt he will get in unless we have an injury.'"
He's a better centre than Welham.
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| Quote: Standee "Does make you wonder why you signed him purely because he used to play for us, surely not?'"
No, its because he is 22, English, played a lot of SL and can score tries, but until his defence is sorted Morgan would be mad to put him in front of Webster or Welham. I am not saying he won't get a game, just he won't be first choice just yet. I can see why he was an attraction, especially as he wouldn't cost a lot.
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| Quote: Standee "Does make you wonder why you signed him purely because he used to play for us, surely not?'"
He's a member of a squad, HTH
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| Quote: MrPhilb "He's a member of a squad, HTH'"
How very 2yrs ago btw you forgot the
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| Quote: sandy "but you don't build a players confidence by hauling him off after a mistake or leaving him on the bench unused for 80 minutes, or actually criticising him in your after match press conference, all things agar has done in the past.'"
Here's a cluehttps://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00697/sport-graphics-2008_697413a.jpg" >
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| Quote: cod'ead "Here's a cluehttps://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00697/sport-graphics-2008_697413a.jpg" >
'"Agar is a lot younger plus he is British
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| Quote: cod'ead "Here's a cluehttps://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00697/sport-graphics-2008_697413a.jpg" >
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Agar has less hair and only one ear!!!
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| Quote: cod'ead "Here's a cluehttps://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00697/sport-graphics-2008_697413a.jpg" >
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so you are telling me hall has not been a non playing substitute this year? or that he wasn/t hauled off straight after a mistake, the wigan game i think,
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