I'd love you to name 20 players in the SL who are better then Kevin Sinfield.

So how do you know?

You dont need to be a brain surgeon to know that they are down, with Jimmy fools constant spin dont you think it would have been splashed all over the media 'we have sold x amount of passes, x more than last year', they are down and probably a lot down and will continue to go down unless the board act.

Send Rule a email and ask how many season passes we've sold.

Whats the point, do you really think he would respond?
In past seasons we had almost daily updates on how many thousands of paases we have sold, how much more it is than this time last season blah blah, this year, nothing, no total given out or anything, from this we must sumise that sales are down, that was all i was trying to get accross,

A kicking game that we don't have, I'd say we possibly have the worst kicking game in SL. That aside that statement is mental, quality player, that's without taking his experience and leadership qualities into account, Leeds are not Hull and are very well run on the field, they wouldn't hand out a four year deal to someone who is 31 this year for nothing.

MY GOD! You've turned into Richard Agar! If you can't see Sinfield's quality mate, you ought to try watching a different sport!

Inclined to agree with Verbalkint on this one. When pass sales were in line with last season they made a big thing of it on the website etc. But since then we have heard nothing about them and you have to presume it is because the sales are down.

Of course as the season progresses they will state that making the East stand all reserved had a detrimental effect on pass sales.

We had updates this season although they have dried up, why would the club publicise that they've sold less passes?
Maybe their waiting till the crusaders game when they will realisticly sell no more?

And they'll use the recession.

Heard Rule on the radio saying something like, the club needs to sell 10k season passes for them to spend to the max salary cap.

So we've never spent the full cap?

they wouldnt! thats what i am saying, leading us to believe that passes have gone down.

Hold on there

Im not saying that at all, Im just saying what I heard Rule say. If it wasn't them exact words it was on similar lines.

Never heard this said, when was it said??

Sure there would have been a thread about it, if it had been said. You sure your not confusing yourself and your break even figure?

Its a possibility. Who knows whats really going on behind all the lies, bull5hit and spin that eminates from the club.

If Rule said the sky was blue i would go out back to check!

Wish we was hitting that mark! But no, Im sure it was Rule.

I like Rule

The cycle has begun.

It's just good marketing.

So with sub 10k passes we have income of £5 million and cannot spend £1.6 million on the cap?

So i ask what do we get for the £3.4+ million off the field spend????????????

Why you asking me?

Agar is our leader!

I'll be watching a different sport on Sunday, you and smallears in a droolfest

Sorry not you as an individual, more of an open question to "those in the know", although feel free to list what on earth you might think we spend £3.5 million quid on!

I'll tell you now it's not coaching!!