our injury situation is defo a major factor in our results.any team who are missing £900k salary cap players are going to struggle.what i,and the majority don't accept is the poor tactical performance.if we got beat but played like we did at home to warrington it wouldn't bother me as much,but having paid out for me and my lad to go to edinburgh,to watch what we did,was totally unacceptable,and really can't see it changing as mr agar seems happy to continue with the 5 drives down the middle followed by a poor kick.

Exactly what i have said for a long time, if we play like that and lose it is bearable, the fact we are just doing nothing is what gets to us the supporters the most. You say about 5 drives and a kick and i would happily settle for that in the current injury situation, but we cannot even manage to hold onto the ball for 5 tackles without dropping it or gifting it back to the opposition.

after the edinburgh debacle,i would love to see 2 or 3 of the kids given ago.tuffour on the wing would allow whiting to be given a more prominent role,and if horne and long are both out at the weekend(horne defo out)why not give one of the young halfbacks a runout.agar seems intent on playing ''senior'' players in positions which doesn't suit them.

Never going to see Whiting play anywhere but Centre/Wing/FB whilst Agar is running the show. He never gave any of the youngsters a chance last season even at the end when we had nothing to play for, why would he start playing them now?

I too would give a couple of them a runout this week as we are likely to lose it, unfortunately Agar picks the team.

Serves him right for spending a huge chunk of salary cap on 2 players well into their 30's

His team, he should live and die by results

And that Paul is why they chose you as a modorator because you are somewhat more balanced than the usual suspects on this forum well said

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I have been pointing this same fact out all week yet for some reason many believe there to be other motives which there simply is not!!
Wether people believe it or not NO team can function anywhere near their potential with the issues we have with injuries, being beaten isnt the issue at present , its more a case of by how many I am afraid .. but it will change

also again note we do not have a given right to beat any team !!

You are Mr Agar and I claim my £5.00!!!!!!!

Are you that guy with a brown nose?

So, why did they choose the other mods, that have a different opinion?

Oh yes!
Why do you keep avoiding the question:

Which players in your opinion have improved under Agar?

I will start you off:
S Moa

In all fairness, having 60% of your salary cap out injured could be expected to seriously hamper even the best of sides with the best coach.

It will just hit us harder as we don't have the best of sides or a decent coach.

Yes I know Kosh (aka expro)


I guess that is also what Mr Agar will be telling his players

I wouldn't have a problem with that IF he used it to generate a siege mentality. Sadly there's no sign that he or the players are capable of that strength of character.

What is the polar opposite of a siege mentality? A gentle stroll in the park (if it's not raining) mentality? We've got that for sure.

why does every post degenerate into personal abuse?? no i have no brown nose just a opinion that isnt generated by reading the diary thats all, Like Paul I try to see reasons not conspiracies
No offence Wilf

Because you're a brown nosed sycophant?

It doesn't. Some post do but not every one.

Is an innuendo not also an insult?

You are still avoiding the question.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but arent the majority of tactics, set plays etc worked on during pre season. If I remember rightly, we had very few injuries pre season. Therefore, all players should know how to play if they are called upon.
It looks to me like Agar has shown his strongest 17 the gameplan but kept it from everyone else. When saints have injuries they still stick to the same gameplan, obviously not aswell as there strongest line up would but you can see its there.
Any player who is not in the starting 17 should be shadowing the player in there position who is starting the game. That way the transition can be that bit smoother

That the word I was looking for!!



I knew it was something like psycho

So lets see if there's any effort and enthusiasm to reward the fans that have paid a lot of money to travel to france this weekend. I suspect there will be no effort or enthusiasm and we simply rely on the injuries as an excuse like usual.

Which makes you Mr Stupid, do I get £5?

Look my post is what I believe I don't think we can beat Cats with 12 players out, especially with the quality of players that would be missing.

That said I do take your point, if I were the head coach I would be concentrating on the players that were fit and I would be giving them a different gameplan completely. I would give the free reign to offload and throw the ball about and ask them to play with enthusiasm and give them belief that they can win the game. I would ban all talk of injuries and tell the fit players this is their opportunity!!

Agar in motivational speech shocker!!

I’m sick to death of hearing about our injury woes, as all they are doing is papering over the cracks.

No sensible supporter would expect us to comfortably win games with some of the patched up sides that we have had on the paddock at various points over the past 3 seasons, but surely it is not asking for too much when simply wanting to see committed performances, regardless of personnel on the field.

This current spate of injuries has come at a very convenient time for Agar, and he is simply taking cover behind them and using them as an excuse yet again. The reality is that in the whole of Agar’s tenure as head coach you can probably count on one hand how many times the side has played expansive, creative, committed and focussed rugby, and that has nothing to do with injuries and everything to do with Agar’s ability, or lack of, as a head coach.

Our current downward spiral started before the current spate of injuries had kicked in, but some people seem to simply forget this fact.

Spot on. All a fan wants is committed effort no matter which 17 is named.

It was not ment as derogatory to your opinion. I just had this image that that would be something like Agars regular pre match team talk.

No worries, although being referred to as Mr Agar could be deemed as quite offensive