I don’t? Craven Streat is now used as a viewing area whilst fans socialise.
It likely has reduced the capacity but your pass holders would still fit into Sewell Group Craven Park as your original post stated your season pass holders wouldn’t fit into the stadium.

My original post stated nothing of the sort. I dont really have an obsession with Hull KR so had missed the council audit granted.

I love how KR fans think putting up some marquees and pub benches has revolutionised the stadium. I agree it has given extra revenue but it looks ridiculous on TV.

Yes you did you wrote
“ That was for 2021 with pass sales impacted by Covid (we were back in lockdown when they went on sale) this years sales are back at 2020 levels.

Our passholders would struggle to fit in caravan park we'd have to sit in the chavvy chic burger van area.”

There you go….

I apologise it’s was UllFC that stated Hull FC pass holders would not fit in to Sewell Group Craven Park.
Sorry for dragging you into that my mistake.

Getting back to the title of the thread…

Have been a long time lurker on this board, and a contributor years ago to its predecessor(s); however, gave up as it all seemed pointless as the more sensible posters on here generally cover my thoughts.

Like many born into a fishing family on Hessle Road, supporting Hull was a given: it’s a cross we have to bear.

Have had a season pass from when I could first afford one in the late 70’s, and this year was the first time I have seriously considered not renewing it.

The reasons are many, a major one was being forcibly removed from West stand W12 where many of us sat together for years to make way for expanded “family seating” and into the North Stand (the away stand), or face a huge price increase. The fact our old seats - apart from the derby, or when tickets are given away - sit empty just across from us all serves only to increase the bitterness. This was a great thank you for all of us affected allowing the club to keep our money during the Covid season.

So, “Finances and supporting the club”. The above has clearly affected the attitude of all, and has been reflected in the merchandise sales; for a relatively small group, season on season this has not been insignificant.

I see early in this thread we have had the usual Lord Kitchener-esque “your club needs you”, with the implied notion that if we don’t just keep coughing up on passes, merchandise, etc we will be directly responsible should the club fail.

In my humble opinion, this is disingenuous to say the least. Does the ownership therefore take no responsibility for the state the club is in, and it is simply because the fan base don’t empty their pockets often enough? Hull FC has been criminally mismanaged for a long time now, and each latest disaster is glossed over with further jam tomorrow promises that play on the wish fulfilment fantasies of the paying fan.

For me, this ran out some time ago. I still have a pass only because my fellow ex-W12ers renewed, having given up on any notion of entertainment or pleasure at the MKM/KCom in 2018.

A word that apparently does not apply at Hull FC looms large - Accountability.

It is quite rightly being applied to a playing group (note - not a team) who are the most pathetic and spineless in the competition, but it MUST begin with the ownership.

I know there is no queue of investors or potential alternative owners, but Adam Pearson has made some catastrophic decisions during his tenure, and seemingly has not learned from them at all. Most glaringly, the fact that Tony Smith is the first genuine, time-served rugby league man to be involved outside of coaching during APs tenure (should his de facto director of rugby position be correct) is damning.

I don’t have an answer, none of us (realists) do, but “here’s more of the same, open your wallet” simply will not wash anymore.

I will always be a Hull FC fan, I have no choice. But my days of Stockholm Syndrome are over; and asking around, I’m not alone.

I agree with the previous posts, I don't think Clarky is right for the position he is in.

Saints have Mike Rush, Wigan have Radlinski, Warrington have Fitzpatrick. They are rugby people. We have an ex DJ, and pitch announcer. With AP confirming that Smith will have that role now fills me with some hope, but its going to take a few years to reverse the issues.

The lack of communication from the club is shocking to be honest. To find out that Brown and Sao actually are contracted until next year is baffling to be honest. The contract extensions to Shaul (never announced), and Houghton (wasn't announced by the club if I recall) again is shocking.

In terms of the matchday experience, we were told this was going to change, improve. We still have Great Balls of Fire, still have Boot It....nothing changes, it is stale, old and boring. To get 15k against Cas, and then 17k Hull fans to the Derby, the club deserve to give us more - communication, enjoyment, and a sense of belonging to the club, which I think we all feel is lacking these days.

Houghton was announced in an almost embarassed way as the way it was worded makes us beleive he decided to take up his extra year, which is crazy no player should have that power even one that has played so many times for us.

Also agree about the matchday experience, changing the music playlist costs nothing, though for me the sound was too loud before the Derby, impossible for any atmosphere to build.

I remember one game many moons ago under the Hetheringtons were simply giving out thousands of flags on a sunny afternoon geed the crowd up and helped the team get over the line. We dont seem to try anything different anymore.

I know people criticised the hetheringtons, and rightly so at times, but the match day experience (and atmosphere) was far better between 2003-2010 ish than it is these days, feels like these days it's a case of turn up, order a beer, watch the rugby, get disappointed again, go home thinking of what else you could have done with your day...Leigh are setting the standard this season of what a match day experience should be like. Toulouse last year was the best pre / post game experience I've been to.

What did Toulouse have?

I have always thought that a Fan Zone around the ground - marquee's with beer, bands on, rugby related games for the kids etc. are just an easy thing to accomplish

They had pretty much what you suggested, a fan zone outside the ground with games, players that weren't playing mingling with fans, food stalls, a nice bar, then post game a band playing in the bar and fans from both teams mingling, felt like more of an event rather than just a game then go home