Pr Rapana at centre, be tempted to play him against Wardle.

Hardaker out as well...Groin injury. 1. Jordan Rapana, 2. Harvey Barron, 4. Ed Chamberlain, 5. Tom Briscoe, 7. Aidan Sezer, 8. Herman Ese’ese, 10. Ligi Sao, 12. Jordan Lane, 13. John Asiata, 14. Cade Cust, 16. Yusuf Aydin, 17. Jack Ashworth, 19. Brad Fash, 21. Will Gardiner, 22. Lewis Martin, 23. Logan Moy, 25. Denive Balmforth, 30. Callum Kemp, 31. Hugo Salabio, 32. Will Kirby, 33. Will Hutchinson

I'd shift Rapana to centre and Moy to 1. Moy Barron Rapana Briscoe Martin Cust Sezer Ese'ese Balmforth Aydin Chamberlain Lane Asiata Sao Salabio/Ashworth Fash Hutchison/Kemp

[quote="mwindass":2rj32q24]I'd shift Rapana to centre and Moy to 1. Moy Barron Rapana Briscoe Martin Cust Sezer Ese'ese Balmforth Aydin Chamberlain Lane Asiata Sao Salabio/Ashworth Fash Hutchison/Kemp[/quote:2rj32q24] Think I'd go with that, wouldn't risk anyone not 100%, think the Hudds game should be our target.

Losing Hardaker will be a big loss as thought he good against Catalans. Was always going to be a difficult task to get anything from this Friday and now a touch more difficult. Still possibly a time for one of the young lads to shine and take their chance and at least this time around they'll have experienced support around them on the field. Would imagine that losing Hardaker will see Logan Moy come is at FB with Rapana switched to centre? Possibly: Moy Baron Rapana Briscoe Martin Cust Sezer Ese ese Balmforth Aydin/Sao Lane Chamberlain Asiata Ashworth or Salabio if Ashworth not well enough Sao/Aydin Fash Kirby/Hutchinson A lot depends on who JC feels is the best player to slot in at Centre in place of HArdaker

[quote="Jake the Peg":31y3ebx9]Surely we should have sent holmes to see a knee specialist months ago if he's had the problem since last season? It was hardly likely to miraculously heal itself[/quote:31y3ebx9] Completely agree with this, surely he could have had a operation already if that's what's needed

Moy Barron Rapana Briscoe Martin Cust Sezer Ese'ese Balmforth Aydin Chamberlain Lane Asiata Sao Salabio Ashworth Fash I think I'd go big on the bench can always play Fash/Ashworth or Ligi for 20 in 2nd row and move Laney to 9 to give Balmforth a breather

[quote="Ellam":moh25q1m]Completely agree with this, surely he could have had a operation already if that's what's needed[/quote:moh25q1m] Surgery is always the last resort as it’s costly, has risks, outcome is uncertain and sometimes not an option- not everything is operable . Plus there is the time element. Think once again fans see things in black n white if you pardon the pun.its in the clubs and players interest to get the optimum outcome so having acquired Holmes, rightly or wrongly, I’m sure the club is doing the right thing for Holmes the player and Holmes the person.

It's a blow losing Hardaker as he did well last weekend. I'd probably also go with Moy at full back and Rapana offering that experience in the centres. It's probably going to be a tough night. With the team from last week I'd have given us an outside chance. With the squad name, looks very unlikely. Hopefully a couple back for the Huddersfield game which we should be winning.

Hardaker rarely misses any games….until he signs for FC of course

The Hardaker ommission has given us a bit of a conundrum. I think we need Rapana at centre now, which means Moy at FB. I would probably go with the plan A being that Balmforth will play 80 minutes. But we need a contingency plan in case he is really struggling. Probably in the form of Lane going to hooker for 20 minutes. Far from ideal but I think we need to stack the bench with size and whilst I trust Hutchison it could be a waste if he isn't really needed in the end. Moy Barron Rapana Briscoe Martin Cust Sezer Ese'ese Balmforth Aydin Lane Chamberlain Asiata Sao Fash Ashworth Salabio

Id be looking to keep Rapana at FB personally, Chamberlain to centre and have Moy on bench to spell with Balmforth at Hooker.

[quote="Dave K.":zlgq4tu9]Hardraker out too, going to be tough, either Westerman or Chamberlain at centre. Think we have too many out and can't see us getting anything from the game[/quote:zlgq4tu9] I just hope we compete and it's not a hammering. Worrying that we've got a new S&C team in, better fitness, better conditioning and facilities, new physio team and we're still blighted by injuries

[quote="Jake the Peg":1tudtglw]I just hope we compete and it's not a hammering. Worrying that we've got a new S&C team in, better fitness, better conditioning and facilities, new physio team and we're still blighted by injuries[/quote:1tudtglw] And opposite our friends over the river seem to be largely injury free for the last 18 months baring the odd injury, can’t be just “bad luck”

Most teams have injuries just look at others... But again it's just us ...

[quote="hull2524":you87sp0]Most teams have injuries just look at others... But again it's just us ...[/quote:you87sp0] We was into squad numbers in the fifties last year, it’s a fair discussion point.

Last year..... This is a new year .....Leigh Leeds Wakefield Cas Catalans etc all have 4 or more players out..... Maybe there have the same backroom staff as us

[quote="hull2524":y7e991cv]Most teams have injuries just look at others... But again it's just us ...[/quote:y7e991cv] The extent of the injury lists across the comp already is a real shame. It's a tough sport.

[quote="hull2524":3kxvmhe6]Last year..... This is a new year .....Leigh Leeds Wakefield Cas Catalans etc all have 4 or more players out..... Maybe there have the same backroom staff as us[/quote:3kxvmhe6] That’s alright then as long as other teams have got injuries we don’t need to access why they keep happening

[quote="hull2524":3eov4f2w]Most teams have injuries just look at others... But again it's just us ...[/quote:3eov4f2w] We've lost abdul completely, holmes injured after one game now another 4 is it from the catalans game? 2 games in and 6 of the pre season squad unavailable due to injury. Just when we'd put in a decent performance too. Maybe hardaker has this bug ashworth had?

I see lewis murphy is injured too. Another one who can't stay fit

[quote="Jake the Peg":2j4d4jlx]I see lewis murphy is injured too. Another one who can't stay fit[/quote:2j4d4jlx] Yes, out for two months. Big loss for Saints. Hopefully we'll have Bourouh and Hardaker back for Huddersfield, maybe Cartwright back the week after.

[quote="Jake the Peg":7eh2s6pm]I see lewis murphy is injured too. Another one who can't stay fit[/quote:7eh2s6pm] Shame that , He's someone I'd like to see kick on and have a decent run of games .

South Stand seats look to have sold well over the last couple of days. Pretty much just the front two row avaialble in S3 and S4 plus some odd seats. Maybe a hundred left in S5. Lower West almost full. Just a few odd seats in E4 to E11. Would be great to make 15k, not out of the question.

[quote="Mr. Zucchini Head":pwvp1zxt]The Hardaker ommission has given us a bit of a conundrum. I think we need Rapana at centre now, which means Moy at FB. I would probably go with the plan A being that Balmforth will play 80 minutes. But we need a contingency plan in case he is really struggling. Probably in the form of Lane going to hooker for 20 minutes. Far from ideal but I think we need to stack the bench with size and whilst I trust Hutchison it could be a waste if he isn't really needed in the end. Moy Barron Rapana Briscoe Martin Cust Sezer Ese'ese Balmforth Aydin Lane Chamberlain Asiata Sao Fash Ashworth Salabio[/quote:pwvp1zxt] I would say thats the likely starting team Its a poor very lightweight second row so if Ashworth is OK start him for Aydin or if not Ligi Sao as Wigan will come at us hard like Catalan did and that extra go forward and weight from Ashworth or Sao will help.Then we can use the legs and fitness of Aydin when the game has settled down Interesting to see how Salabio goes against a top team. Just hope we dont try to use Sao in the second row again.Much more effective in the front row. If we are going to play a front row out of position think its better to use Fash when interchanges are needed