Those are "team selection" aren't they ? he covers those as his third point.

I wasn't questioning that - I was asking about "playing point of view" because I have no idea what this claim is on about !

The two examples I gave were manifestly not "team selection". Team selection means who is in the 17 man squad and in what positions. The examples I gave are clearly different.

A bit like Nathan Brown in the Sporting Life, perhaps.....

Indeed. In fact publicly criticising individual players in the media is probably even worse than bawling them out in front of their team mates. A good man-manager can talk to the press about individual errors without "naming names".

A professional rugby league environment is different to the average workplace. There seems to be a lot of people on here who know the first team environment at Hull inside out despite not being in any position to do so. To be honest I get a bit sick of one pontification after the next deriding Radford's man management capabilities from people who can only be clueless on the subject in reality.

We can all see deficiencies in selection, tactics, structure and the basic skill levels of certain players. All of that is fair game for criticism so why people feel the need to take a punt on the way Radford manages individuals when they have no first hand experience of it whatsoever is beyond me. As has been demonstrated on this thread other coaches in the league do the same things that Radford has done in the media. Wane at Wigan publicly berates his team regularly. If players don't like it then play better - some players like Ellis, Westerman and alike rarely if ever suffer from criticism - maybe that's because they don't deserve it where others do.

There have been a number of extensions and signings recently. If the place was such a nightmare to work at players would be looking to get out not the other way around.

Having never worked with Radford I cant personally comment on his man management skills. However if an established first team player tells me he thinks Radford's man management skills are poor then I'm entitled to post it and in doing so cannot sensibly be accused of pontificating - especially by someone who has no more first hand experience on the subject than I do.

TrevlovesJanice, if you want to stick your head in the sand and can't be 'd to look through the threads & see the huge and simple errors Radford has made time and again that's your look out. That you can't even understand how a lack of basic man managament manifests itselfs in the attitude of the players and the way we are so up and down in performances (mainly down) again is your lack of understanding. That isn't your fault as such, it just means you're not able to see the what, where, how & why..but is is pretty basic and so damn obvious I find it hard that someone with their head in the sand such as yourself can't see it?
I just presume you're a Radford lover and are just blind to the facts??
However the facts bear themselves out, Radford is even worse than Agar, I think that's pretty clear tbh

Radford inherited a decent core squad, not fantastic but some very good & experienced players, a large proportion of these have gone backwards, some dramatically so.
Radford has had pretty much free reign to do what he wanted, Agar didn't
Radford has far more infrastructure & a hugely improved youth set up, Agar most definitely didn't.
Radford hasn't had a shocking injury situation, he's had the luxury of being able to loan players out left right & centre

Both Agar & Radford made the same simple basic errors time & again, one's borne out of inexperience, lack of ability and lack of being able to manage people. However Agar had his hands tied beghind his back, whereas Radford hasn't.
We are so far adrift at the moment I can't beleive some are still backing Radford, insisting he either shouldn't be sacked or give him some games next season.. [/u:1qjrv4c0][/b:1qjrv4c0][/color:1qjrv4c0]:simpsons/PDT2.gif