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| Quote: Standee "Simple solution
That thought had crossed my mind as well.
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| Quote: Standee "Simple solution
There'll be a counter claim that he's been masquerading as a coach though.
Simple fact is that either agar is a useless clown who isn't coaching the team effectively, or he's a good coach but the players are not responding to him for one reason or another. Either way it falls at his door.
The other thing is if people are being disruptive he should just drop them and fine them. morgan dropped cooke before one of their biggest games of the season for a breach of discipline and he did it again a couple of weeks ago. Strong action against the perpretators of ill discipline will soon nip it in the bud.
Problem is agar doesn't have the credibility with the playing squad. they obviously don't respect him
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| Quote: Standee "I'd love to know what you have seen in Agar to make you think he is anything other than inept, and way out of his depth.?'"
His prude signings for next year, the fact he recognises his senior palyers are shiite and says as much, the fact he has loaned out Craig Hall to gain some valuable experience and build his confidence..erm struggling abit now, will try and think of some more
Maybe Sharp will be binned and some-one more experienced will be brought in to help Agar (according to one of the directors)
Kill 2 birds with one stone, get rid of the deadwood players, get some-one decent to help Agar.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "icon_lol.gif His prude signings for next year, the fact he recognises his senior palyers are shiite and says as much, the fact he has loaned out Craig Hall to gain some valuable experience and build his confidence..erm struggling abit now, will try and think of some more
as I suspected, you're deluded.
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| Quote: Standee "as I suspected, you're deluded.'"
Maybe or just realistic.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "icon_lol.gif His prude signings for next year, the fact he recognises his senior palyers are shiite and says as much, the fact he has loaned out Craig Hall to gain some valuable experience and build his confidence..erm struggling abit now, will try and think of some more
I'd have thought sean long was anything but a prude
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Maybe or just realistic.'"
Definitely deluded
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| i say let it carry on as it is, they get the coaches sacked hopefully and then, in the end, the players will hang themselves and got rid of.
already some of the squad are on their way with new faces comin in, i just hope wve got another 7 or 8 more signings to come in on top of who weve signed already.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Maybe or just realistic.'"
I tend to avoid debate with people that don't have a basic grasp of english, even more so people who use "buzz words" they have heard on telly what not knowing what they mean.
Hall going to Widnes demonstrates Agar's lack of ability, and I wouldn't call Fitzgibbon on a year "prudent".
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| Quote: Standee "I tend to avoid debate with people that don't have a basic grasp of english, even more so people who use "buzz words" they have heard on telly what not knowing what they mean.
Hall going to Widnes demonstrates Agar's lack of ability, and I wouldn't call Fitzgibbon on a year "prudent".'"
Unreal
Oh right, I am gutted you won't debate with me, mind you I have noticed not a lot of people want to debate with you either, wonder why
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| Quote: Standee "I tend to avoid debate with people that don't have a basic grasp of english, even more so people who use "buzz words" they have heard on telly what not knowing what they mean.
Hall going to Widnes demonstrates Agar's lack of ability, and I wouldn't call Fitzgibbon on a year "prudent".'"
There's been a lot of constructive comment on this thread and I have been pleased to see it.
I recall John Kear's head being called for in a similar way. Peter Sharp was called out of his depth. What is the common denominator in all this? The players.
BTW, I used your quote because it doesn't bother me if people use 'buzz' words or maybe leave a couple of letters off a word, as long as they make a constructive point.
Being condescending gets us nowhere.
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| Quote: airliebird58 "I recall John Kear's head being called for in a similar way. Peter Sharp was called out of his depth. What is the common denominator in all this? The players.'" I actually think the players were well within their right to resent and turn on Kear the way he behaved after we won the CC.
Peter Sharp was actually really well liked by the players who acted like proffesionals.
Think Agar is getting undermined by certain players because they know he isnt up to the job.
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| Quote: airliebird58 "There's been a lot of constructive comment on this thread and I have been pleased to see it.
I recall John Kear's head being called for in a similar way. Peter Sharp was called out of his depth. What is the common denominator in all this? The players.
BTW, I used your quote because it doesn't bother me if people use 'buzz' words or maybe leave a couple of letters off a word, as long as they make a constructive point.
Being condescending gets us nowhere.'"
I think you'll find the common denominator is actually the board.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "I actually think the players were well within their right to resent and turn on Kear the way he behaved after we won the CC.
Peter Sharp was actually really well liked by the players who acted like proffesionals.
Think Agar is getting undermined by certain players because they know he isnt up to the job.'"
As Ian said in his first post there is blame to all parties in this. Sacking Agar won't change anything other than the players will think they have the power again and we will be left with Sharp.
Maybe it needs a coach to stand his ground and get shut of some players, maybe Agar is going to do this. The trouble is if he gets rid of players and brings in some good ones and still fails then we will know it's him.
Sacking the coach is the easy option and it has not worked so well for us in recent season has it.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "I actually think the players were well within their right to resent and turn on Kear the way he behaved after we won the CC.
Peter Sharp was actually really well liked by the players who acted like proffesionals.
Think Agar is getting undermined by certain players because they know he isnt up to the job.'"
I do not know what went on with JK or PS behind the scenes. All I see is what is happening on the pitch, so that is what I comment on. The players you say acted like proffessionals under Sharp are not doing so now are they? I'm sure there must be some channels the players can go down if they are not happy. Instead of not turning up on the pitch.
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